Would this make the song "I Saw Momma Kissing Santa Claus" a description of a child waking up to witness some sexual satanic ritual?

You can blame Coca-Cola for the red and white Santa; prior to their ad campaigns in the early 20th century Santa/St Nicholas was traditionally shown in other colours.

I think that was the cartoonist Nast that drew him in red about 1840.

I don't have a problem with Santa.  My kids know the real reason for the holiday.  Sometimes we bake a birthday cake, etc.

Santa is something they believe for maybe 5-6 years at best.  I'm not training them up to continue believing in Santa, it is just a part of their childhood.  When they are older it will be time to set aside childish things.

We have family stories (stuff I make up) about characters they love and my three year old is just as certain they exist.  Fairy tales, magic, and make believe are a fun part of childhood.

Does it contend with the message of Christmas?  Sure.  I think so.  So I handle it like the other distractions from my faith...talk about it, be conscious of it, and move on.

 

 

KFC said: Satan already has the Jews blinded to Christ.

But... wasn't Jesus jewish? I grew up in a very religious (freaky religious) household. We certainly did not "worship" Santa Claus, and all the children knew the true meaning of Christmas. Your humorous article was blatantly beligerant whether you want to see it or not.

As for the back pedaling, that's all I've seen on your behalf. You state you're a Christian but you don't shed a tear for all those millions of poor people who are going to Hell? I grew up believing in the kosher laws of Leviticus 11. We didn't eat pork, or any unclean meats. My first dinner with my husband to be and my family, my mother handed him bacon salad dressing. I was mortified because it was akin to saying it was alright for the man I loved to go to Hell. Geez, KFC. What kind of Christian are you?

I don't see it as contending. No matter what KFC says, Santa Claus isn't about greed or materialism, and someone would need a very twisted perspective on the world to see it that way. Santa Claus is about giving and working for the joy of other people.

Santa Claus is about being good. That doesn't matter to KFC or her son, though, because anything that doesn't go around like a chatty cathy doll proclaiming Jesus every hour on the hour is a "distraction". It's always black or white, hot or cold, singling praises or wallowing in sin.

It makes me ill, just like people who believe Harry Potter is satanic. Do you believe that, KFC? Does your son? What about fairy takes like Snow White? Once you start down the slippery slope of 'santa is the devil' I would imagine that paranoia would taint your mind toward all that stuff.

Then you end up being the kooks own the street who every looks at and feels sorry for the kids. I feel sorry for kids who have to deal with Christmas becoming a conspiracy theory, and tainted so that every time they see Santa Claus they think of the devil.

Shame on you KFC, and shame on your son for urging us to taint our children's minds with your paranoia and intolerance.

It makes me ill, just like people who believe Harry Potter is satanic. Do you believe that, KFC?

now are you talking Harry Potter as in the actor who plays him? The story itself? I believe what ithe story s projecting is not great. So no as a Christian parent, those ideals in that book I would not promote nor would I encourage my young children to read them. If they wanted to read tthis, as older children, I wouldn't forbid it either. There would be discussion tho about witchcraft, magic etc and how it lines up with what God wants for us. I believe what we put into our minds and hearts should be guarded ,and as a parent it's my responsibility to watch what my children watched and read. I took this seriously.

Santa Claus is about being good.

Baker, you don't seem to get this. This whole idea/story has to do with the spiritual not the physical. Sure on the physical, it's wonderful. Santa is a good guy. No question. I've never met a bad Santa. I liked them all.

But isn't that how Satan works? He's certainly not going to reveal who he really is. He projects as an angel of light. I believe the early church Apostles that pleaded with us not to forget this. Even Jesus said himself that Satan would decieve "even the elect" if he could. That's how good he is. That's why we are urged to "test the spirits."

Here's a kicker for ya Baker. My son, who wrote this article, is a college junior and has his picture taken every year with his girlfriend sittting on Santa's lap.

If he thought the nice guy he was sitting on was Satan, he wouldn't be there.

Weirdness.

I got a better Idea.  Why dont we think about those who lost things or people.  Not physical or metaphysical.

Why dont we remember the season, and the reason, and stop this bickering.  It seems so very petty, when a friend has lost their best friend.  Or is it just me?

Sorry, As a Catholic (sorry for those who pretend to speak for me), I have never been offended by KFC.  As a person, I do not believe as she does, but I respect her beliefs.

And as a being, I am truly sorry that I cannot be there more for my fellow being in his worst hour.  And that has nothing to do with Satan or Santa or Catholics or Jews.

Just a man who is hurting bad right now.  And all alone.

"Here's a kicker for ya Baker. My son, who wrote this article, is a college junior and has his picture taken every year with his girlfriend sitting on Santa's lap. "

People always have some way of validating the fact that they condone in their personal lives what they preach against in others'. Here's a suggestion, why bother with it at all if your point is so vague that you are still hanging out stockings and sitting on Satan's lap? If the guy in the red suit isn't Satan, and the suit isn't Satan, then no one is really doing anything different than you are, right?

Unless you think the rest of the world actually somehow believes in Santa Claus as a real entity, we deal with Santa on the "physical" just as you do. So there's no "worship", there's no idolatry, there's no being distracted by "Satan". We do the same stuff you do, the only difference is you appear to be preaching the evils of it while you go on doing it yourself.

There's a word for that, right?

P.S. Doc, if KFC has the right to tell us to go home and tell our kids that Santa is Satan, then I have the right to answer it. Stop sitting here and trying to pretend you are any more elevated because you aren't offended.

If you have some reason that I don't have the right to answer what was put forth here, say it. Otherwise don't give me the moral high road, because I've seen you right down in the mud in other topics that you could have easily been less sensitive about.

I happen to agree with Doc - stop the bickering now, you have both said what you think and you both have very clear and opposing views on the subject.

It is christmas and it is time to share, it is time to heal, it is time to love and it is time to give..........PLEASE give to one another understanding and love.

I also agree with what Doc said about Mason, he is alone and he is hurting right now, as a community put aside these negative feelings and lets pull together for Mason and spread some cheer, sharing and getting along.

Christmas is not a time to be at one anothers throats even if the subject concerns christmas.

Jennifer1: Odd then you didn't have much but "interesting" to say to KFC when she decided to drop this steamer on the Christmas spirit. If KFC wants to remove it, I won't have anything to post on. I didn't see any concerns for hurt feelings on her part when she posted this. I'd feel more apt to receive your protest as sincere if you'd responded the same to:

"Instead of praising the birth of our Lord, we instead worship the red-stained fattened figure of Santa Claus."

The whole blog above is an insult.

Dr. Guy: I feel for him, but I don't see the bickering stopping about any other subject. We'll see if the bickering ends on the "flying imams" or the "Europe on the brink" blogs. I don't know why this one subject should be quelled if the right-wing zealots are allowed to continue their tirades against their foes and vice versa.

If KFC doesn't want to continue this she can blacklist me, or do the honorable thing and accept the hypocrisy of it and delete it. She's still hanging stockings while she's posting ignorant junk like this, so it doesn't seem to be heart-felt anyway.

If they want to have a hiatus on quibbling site-wide, I'll honor that, too. I dunno why you guys are here whining to me when there are fights going on elsewhere. I don't see you guys over at Col Gene's "Iraq" blog telling Paladin77 to shut up.

Probably because this particular thread is about Christmas - which is supposed to be a time of joy, love and sharing...not bickering about what is right or wrong about christmas.

I've yet to say anything is wrong with Christmas. I'm taking exception to someone telling me that part of what I do is wrong. If she wants to take it back, there'll be nothing to talk about. If she keeps defending the ignorant, hypocritical nonsense, I'll keep posting.

I mean, wtf?? You guys are coming down on ME, when she is here likening other people's beliefs and practices to devil worship? If she was here saying Mohamed was the devil no one would be crapping on me for taking issue with it. Say the same thing about a Jewish practice and you might find yourself tossed off the site as a whole. What you tolerate defines you, and I refuse to be tolerant of this filth.

She has the right to say it, but when she does she should expect what she gets. If she doesn't get it, she gets a pass on her ignorance. Don't expect me to shut up.