Yes, sexually active kids in middle school are the result of sexualizing them through sex education. This goes to show that sex education is a success. It works just as the sexologists of Planned Parenthood planned it would when they devised the programs that are implemented throughout public schools. Dole out the birth control drugs, condoms, and provide abortion, if it gets that far, and voila, Planned Parenthood is in the BIG MONEY, $$$$$ and lots of it.

Planned Parenthood isn't completely about abortion. The mission statement of Planned Parenthood is to destroy as many lives as possible, through encouraging sex by removing the visible consequences.

Do you have evidence that kids weren't sexually active in middle school prior to the implementation of sex education programs? One stat in Maine is that sexual activity among middle schoolers has dropped 10% in the last ten years -- seems to be that education is actually working.

WTF? Are you serious? You really need to do some research before you spout completely vile information. You may not agree with Planned Parenthood, but that doesn't negate that they do good work for those women who need medical services and can't always afford them. Planned Parenthood isn't just birth control and abortions, it also provides reduced rates for annual GYN exams which leads to early detection of various types of cancer.

First, you've got to do something about those double negatives in the same sentence!   


ANd to the point...of course it would. Why? Becasue they are in a natural state of latency. You've got two little ones. Look up latency period and study it. We mustn't violate their natural latency period....their time of innocence. This is a gift from God in His creation.

They are physically, mentally and emotionally asleep for any kind of sexual activity. It is awakened naturally and normally when puberty starts which usually begins with girls before boys. I think on average, puberty hits girls 3 years before boys.

From the beginning at an early age, parents should teach modesty. For example, little girls shouldn't be allowed to sit with their legs up showing their underclothing.

After puperty sets in, chastity is taught.

We encourage youth sex and kill babies, but that's okay, because we also offer cut rate GYN exams! Research doesn't change the first two facts. Do you know all the good stuff that cigarette companies do? Doesn't make them less of a death factory.

Your opinion doesn't make it fact. PP provides birth control and abortions -- your spin on it is just that -- spin. Show me where PP encourages underage sex (and providing birth control is not the same as encouragement). And as far as I know, no one can prove when "life" begins and that is why this debate continues. Please do not pretend that your opinion is the only one that matters or pass it off as fact.

Removing deterents = encouraging.

Since no one can prove when "life" begins, then why aren't we erring on the side of caution, instead of erring on the side of convenience?

Really? and where was that stat when King Middle School approved birth control for 11, 12 and 13 year old girls? If educating for sex is working as you claim then why is there the clamour for MORE birth control and GREATER availability to young middle school kids?

Doesn't make sense to me.

There is no doubt whatsoever that educating for sex is actually working...and as a result---children are sexualized and many, way too many of them are acting out sexually as a result.

Lula, do you realize that infants boys get NBRs (no-reason-boners) and children of both sexes learn early that rubbing their genitals creates a pleasurable sensation?

I think an honest, age-appropriate approach to sex education is a good way to go. I think sexual repression is as bad as full on sexualization.

Children don't need to be overwhelmed with information, but their questions and experiences should be addressed in a way that respects their intelligence and provides context and moral instruction in accordance with the values of the family.

Example: A small child who has not yet grasped the concept of privacy who is touching him or herself could be distracted with a different activity. An older child is instructed that exploring his or her body is fine but it is a private activity and should be done in solitude.

I mean, do you tell a 7 year old that a stork is responsible for mom's pregnancy? Of course not. When my boys were younger they learned that a woman has a "birth canal" that is designed for delivering babies (there are some great children's books available on pregnancy). Now that they are older we have added to their understanding of the equation by answering their questions honestly (no need to go above and beyond or give them way more info than they need to satisfy their curiosity).

Both my boys are very modest and neither are as of yet showing any sort of age-inappropriate sexual interest (girls still have cooties, LOL, except for me because I'm a grown up and sister because she's a baby, haha).

I guess the proof is in the pudding and my children are still young yet, but I don't think making sex shameful is a very useful tactic.

Lula, are you of the opinion that sex is merely for pro-creation? Do you think masturbation is wrong?

Do you have an sources to back that up? Mine is from the Maine Youth Risk Behavior Survey. Opinions aren't facts, folks.

SHADESOFGREY POSTS:

When does a human life become a human life? When does life (no italics) begin? This is the truth we seek and it is a truth that exists for physical human life certainly has a beginning and an end.

SHADESOFGREY POSTS:

Opinion and viewpoint only have jurisdiction in subjective areas. Becasue the question of when life begins has an answer, a truth, opinions have no bearing or influence what that truth is...yet, people erroneously act if it does.

So, let's as best we can separate truth from opinion. We hear some say that life begins at conception, or life begins at three months, or life begins at birth.

On the question of when life begins we can arrive at truth through science and reason. This is from the New Oxford Review Nov. 2002. First, we know from scientific fact that upon the creation of a single cell zygote, an entire cascade of events is set in motion. At conception, the zygote, by its inherent genetic program begins a maturation process that will lead it through every stage of its life, from the embryonic stage to birth to childhood to adulthood.

That is to say, every child, adolescent, and adult today, was at one point a single cell zygote. Firthermore, at the point the zygote is formed, is is endowed with a complete set of 46 chromosomes, the same number that adult humans have, 23 coming from the egg and 23 from the sperm. This chromosome combination is unique from that of its mother or father.

Whatever form a human life takes, be it a zygote, a morula, blastula, late stage embryo, neonate, infant, child, or adult, the issue is still one of life, NOT size or stage.

Science and reason suggest, therefore, that at the point of conception, a distinct and human being has been created.

And eugenics. And you still have not provided any source for the following quoted statement. Just a friendly reminder.

Actually, I linked to the study about 40 comments ago, go back and look.

TexasWahine Posts:

As a mother of 4, 2 of each, I am familiar with what you are describing as NBRs. I asked our pediatrician about it and was told this is a perfectly normal part of nature. As to your second point, it's also the same part of nature and we adults should make nothing big of it. They are still in their latency period and innocent.


When you said this I was reminded of a news story I read last week about a school in Oslo, Norway. Here is the first paragraph of the news story. "An Oslo pre-school teacher, backed by child psychologists, has suggested that kindergarten children be encouraged to “express” their sexuality through “sex-play” and games, including dancing naked and masturbating, in pre-school and day-care centres."

What we have here is pure adult evil going on..sex abuse disguised as sex education.





I agree. Parents know their child best and can instill the type of morality that they want their children to have. Teaching sexuality is formation, not loading up with information as public schools do.

I'm 100% opposed to classroom sex mis-education. I think it's tantamount to sex abuse.



Our sexuality is a gift from God. Properly ordered it brings much happiness. Sex is only shameful when it is misused.



I'm of the opinion that sex should only be in marriage of the man and woman and always open to life. Period. So, yes to your second question.