Apparently it doesn't affect LW. At least in the lust area.

Ever ask yourself why?

Yes.

Let's see if LW can enlighten us.

Self control anyone?

SPOILER OF MY FUN!

See, some of us realize that the idea about our culture being "oversexed" has about as much credence as those who say that video games make a normal person more violent.

They don't.

In fact, it helps some with violent tendencies keep themselves under control, rather than acting out, they blow up some crap in Unreal Tournament.

The same thing happens with our "oversexed" society - some of us can keep control of ourselves. Some of us can't. Simple as that.

If you can't keep control of yourself if you see a little bit of shoulder or some leg, go to Antarctica.

"Where there is no vision, the people are uncontrolled; but he who keeps the law will be happy."

So instead of teaching self-control, we give out birth control. I see how that will be helpful in the long term.

Exactly. This happens to be what I see as the root of this issue. We don't teach HOW to have self control we just tell people to have it. You don't get this just over night. It is like running. If you just start one day to run it hurts and your body resists but over time you become stronger with 'consistent' training. The same is true about self control. No one said it would ever be easy.

Either you are in control of your mind or your mind is in control of you.

I find the argument, "If you can't keep control of yourself" completely contradictory to "They are going to do it anyway." Solution: Move all middle schoolers having sex to Antartica.

BINGO that's why abstinence teaching doesn't work!

Tell someone not to do something and tell them all the bad things that may happen (pregnancy, std, etc.) doesn't help them to combat the issue. This is something I had to figure out on my own (sadly). They don't know how to deal with the new hormonal rush that peculates through their young bodies.

Young, dumb, and full of (you can finish).

Although I am in support of abstinence I do not agree with the method that abstinence is delivered and taught (or so it was taught to me).

Jythier again this doesn't address the problem. Young adults having sex in middle school is, in my view, a RESULT not a CAUSE.

Exactly. This happens to be what I see as the root of this issue. We don't teach HOW to have self control we just tell people to have it. You don't get this just over night.

Either you are in control of your mind or your mind is in control of you.

The problem is we are NOT allowed to teach the middle schoolers self control. We are not allowed into the schools to give them alternatives. We tried that here. We tried to get an abstinence program into our middle school. After countless meetings with the school board we were turned down. The abstinence program involved much more than just telling the kids to wait. It gave them practical ways and support to help them to stay pure.

Either you are in control of your mind or your mind is in control of you.

kinda hard knowing what the young minds are being FED today don't ya think? Garbage in, garbage out, they say.

oh and for clarification, we wanted to bring in an abstinence program as an addition to what was already in place....a program backed by planned parenthood.

KFC, you missed my point. Middle Schoolers having sex is a result from not teaching self control at a younger age.