Not me, liar!

yes, and that only means one thing......if you get my drift   

LW Posts: #15

As you yourself said, LW, "Nuff said about that situation".

Enough already. Time out. Please, let's move on. This forum is about sixth graders getting birth control...a very weighty and timely topic.

Ah, damn...I'm Satan.

~Zoo

satan can and does use lies. but his best trick is to use the truth as often as possible.


take gene almost everything he says is right but he uses it to attack the wrong people thus they become wrong.

nope. That's not what I'm saying zoo!

LW:

You have repeatedly brought up this subject and did so recenly on another blog of mine on which I ignored your comments. I let it stand. I let you have your say and DID NOT respond. So don't even go there.

Now you come here and do so again. Again, I let your comments stand, not deleting you until you just hammer it. Again, you misrepresented me and my family. In fact it was YOU who resorted to lies, not me.

First of all you wouldn't even know about this situation at all if it wasn't for me telling the story in the first place. So I have nothing to hide. What info you do have comes directly from my blogs. The rest is made up by you as you distort the real story.

You have a fixation on this. Can't help that. I've moved on and I suggest you do the same. Take a deep breath LW...and let it go.

In the meantime.....do you have anything to add to the subject at hand? If so, I would more than welcome your thoughts and comments.

Yes, this is true. He takes the truth, corrupts it with his distortions of it and we more than often swallow it, hook, line and sinker.

The news has been reporting that there is an effort underway to collect signatures to oust the school board members who voted for it.

I also heard that the Christian Civic League of Maine is looking into requesting a criminal investigation questioning the silence of the state attorney general. Under Maine statute, sex with a nonspousal minor under 14 is considered gross sexual assault.
This could prove very interesting to see how this all plays out.

It's the same idea as what is happening in a few cases with Planned Parenthood. They have minor age girls come in and tell them about sexual assaults....and eventually, PP is being quiet about it claiming confidentiallity and privacy rights...when all the time they have been given knowledge of a crime committed.

I obviously think it's a relevant comment because the point she is making is despite the parents' best efforts, you cannot guarantee the results you want when it comes to raising children. Especially when it comes to sex.

My children are too young for this to be an issue yet (oldest is 10 and not interested in girls), but I would rather be open with them and make sure they are using protection than for me to be stubborn about it and stick my head in the sand and end up with a very ill child.

I think if a child has been raised to understand his (or her) family's values, being realistic and honest with them will not damage the years of instruction...or if it will, that instruction didn't sink in quite as well as the parent assumed it did.

I would prefer my children wait until they are emotionally mature (and otherwise responsible enough to deal with the consequences) to begin having sex, but most of all I want them to be healthy and have a good start on life. If that means giving them neutral access to products to keep them safe, then so be it.

Ah...so Gene is Satan?

I knew it...

~Zoo

I think that the best intentions of a parent can easily be undermined by the school. See, the school is going to teach our kids that having sex is okay, and that birth control is normal for kids that age. Why is it normal? Because having sex is normal. If you're not having sex, you're abnormal. You're a loser. You're pathetic. Hop on the pill so you can do it and be cool, and here's plenty of access. Don't be a prude.

If it's okay for them to hand it out, why isn't it okay to tell the parents? You kid is now taking MEDICATION and you don't KNOW ABOUT IT and it could end in their DEATH if they take something else they shouldn't be, because nobody bothered to inform the parent. You know, the person authorized and legally responsible to make medical decisions for the child. A sixteen year old who himself chose to not be treated for cancer in the traditional medical way ended up with his parents in jail for not getting him treatment. How come treatment is the parent's responsibility, but information such as what medication the child is taking can be withheld from them? How does that make any sense? In the name of privacy? Children don't have a right to privacy in school. Any teacher can go through their book bag, their locker, their pockets, anything, but they can't tell the parents about birth control.

And you know what, I know it's to keep from discouraging the possible users from seeking birth control, and I know that if they felt they could go to their parents they would, but honestly - show me a responsible 13 year old and I'll show you someone who already chose not to be having sex yet. Abeting bad behavior is what makes this country suck. You used to see grandparents adopting their grandchildren to avoid family scandals, now it's not even a scandal. "Oh, Julie got pregnant? So did half her class. Great!"

The way the culture is today, yeah, kids are probably going to want to have sex. And, due to the culture, they will cast off restraint and do so. And there will be repercussion, regardless of how careful they are. The spiral is ongoing, sex before marriage leads to baggage in a marriage leads to more broken marriages leads to more broken homes leads to more kids without parents leads to more kids having sex leads to kids without parents etc. Pretty soon a kid with two parents that are still together is going to be the exception. Well, a kid with a Mom and a Dad at least.

no satan is gene and you and me

This is a BIG problem as far as I'm concerned. They are undermining us. It's like, as I've said before, we had to undo what the school was teaching quite often. It wasn't until my kids hit middle school that I was really second guessing my decision in not homeschooling. By then I felt it was too late for me to get into that mode. So I basically sucked it up, put on my big girl panties, as we say around here, and prayed like heck. Sometimes it felt like swimming upstream with no legs.

I told my kids that I would get between them and anything that was going to take them down. I meant it and they knew it. I think for the most part that kept them out of trouble. It was too much work to get by the two of us.

The latest tonight on the local news was a poll taken asking if they approved of what the school board did. 74% did not approve and 26% did approve.

Ugh...sucks to be in the same group as him.

~Zoo

Daniel, in the midst of all the lines of flummery you spew onto the JoeUser boards, you will, occasionally, hit upon a very deep and true point.

This is NOT one of those times.

"no satan is gene and you and me"

Nope, Satan is Satan. Satan may lie to us, which may lead to us lying to each other, but that doesn't make us Satan.