Published on March 13, 2008 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Blogging

Hello Gid,

Since you do not offer me a chance to comment on your blog, I thought I would here.  I figured I had two choices.  One, to ignore what you said and the other to speak out on it.

I chose the latter.....obviously.

You said you expect, as a result of what you wrote, to see a flame blog from me?  Based on what?  When have I ever flamed anyone?  My articles are here for all to see and I've not once resorted to flame throwing.  Not once.   I have no use for such immaturity. 

I'm not here to flame you.

You say in your letter "Stopping By" that you have admitted yourself as being dysfunctional.  Well who isn't?  We all come from some sort of dysfunction.  There are no perfect families on the planet that I'm aware of.  I came from a dystunctional family as well.  But I don't wallow in it.  I choose to go on.  While you can't help what happened to you, you do have a choice to make sure it doesn't happen to your own family.  Sorry to say, you'd rather wallow in dysfuntion, then walk away from it.   Change begins with you Gid.   

You were very quick to attack the dysfunctional church. You gave much time to this subject.  From what I could see, they only wanted to help your family even if that meant calling in outside help.  You said no, they were not helping you, and since I wasn't there, what else could I say?   You say, I didn't see things?   You say I didn't notice you needed help? 

To the full extent you're right.  I didn't see the severity until afterwards.  Chalk it up to 20/20 hindsight.  But there were many, many red flags you waved and when I'd comment on them, you'd get very angry with me.  You didn't like me to go there remember?  Whenever I'd question you, you'd get angry.  Usually this centered around the church helping you or "not" helping you.   Whenever anyone would dare question you on CPS or the church you got very defensive.  So obviously you didn't want any advice nor were you looking for help.  You only wished for us to validate your feelings against all the "bad" people who were after you. 

As far as your depression goes that you mentioned in your earlier blogs....I know nothing about that.  I never go back and read old blogs.  I have only enough time to read the current blogs.  If you were in church, like I kept advising you to do, this would have been replaced....I'm sure of it.   Remember Elijah?  Even he got depressed.  He pulled himself away and felt sorry for himself.  He had to be reminded, it's not all about HIM. 

You accuse many of us beliving the rumor in the article that LW wrote.   It was easy to do.  First you disappeared and I was wondering where you were.  I actually posted somewhere that I was wondering where you went to and Tova gave me a link to LW's blog that answered my question.   Along with your disappearance and the pictures came TW's firsthand comments.  Why wouldn't we believe?   You came on and pretty much admitted it yourself.  Again, why wouldn't we believe?  If I remember right, I made one or two comments on LW's blog and it had no "bashing" qualities to it.   It was basically one of shock and 20/20 hindsight. 

After you came on to explain yourself, I sent you a personal message telling you that I was praying for you and your family which I will continue to do.   I'm not sure what else to do Gid. I considered you a friend.  One cannot help another unless they first want the help.  Remember even Jesus asked the lame man..."do you wish to be well?" 

As far as I was concerned, that was the last of it for me.  I would never, ever, kick anyone when they're down. 

I'm sorry Gid that you've had a bad time of it.   But you have only yourself to blame.  Only you can change this around.  Sometimes it's not all that bad to reach rock bottom.  Because it forces you to look up.  It's all you've got. 

Don't blame us for your shortcomings.  We all tried to help you.  You refused to be helped. 


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on Mar 27, 2008
Wow, I have to say this is one hell of an article. It has brought out the worst in almost everyone.


And one more point. Why is expressing anger and disappointment with someone bringing out the "worst" in people?

And considering some of the flames I've seen at JU, this is not even on the chart in comparison.

I'd rather have uncomfortable honesty than phony silence.
on Mar 28, 2008
Charles..KFC posted this because Gid named her specifically in his welcome back article and then black listed her. He essentially called her out in a public forum, not allowing her to respond publically.

So she posted this article. She did it on her own blog. And I for one am glad she did. While some may look at this as a place to bash Gid, others (me) look at it as a place to poke the puss out of the wound he caused here.

Gid can't be "reached" by email. I exchanged emails with him some time ago, and he spouted the same lies as he did on JU to me and for no reason (at that time no one knew he was a liar).

If you were going to confront a gambler...would you send him an email or go where you know he will be? Will you can make the most impact?

KFC can't be expected to read the future or what people's reactions will be. It's her blog and until Brad and company tell her otherwise, she is free to post what she likes.

Gid is the deceiver here. Not KFC. Pointing a finger at the messenger is diversion at its finest and I am sure makes Gid's day.


I said what I said because I find it annoying that people claim to be ignorant to something as obvious as this. I was not trying to attack KFC about the article but more about the fact that she claimed not to be aware that this article would get so out of hand. What did she expect when Gid hurt a lot of people and did not allow them to reply on his article? This is not about guessing, this is about the obvious. It's not about writing the article, it's about acting as if she never thought this would happen.

on Mar 28, 2008

'Insightful articles' or not, every time Stardock allows this man to log on to any of their websites they are contributing to the continued neglect of those children. Sure, he'll just find another place to blog, but so what? At least Brad and crew could wash their hands of it and know that whatever happened, they did the right thing, the responsible thing, and kicked his ass out of here for good. I've seen others exiled for far, far less. (btw, anyone seen Col Gene lately?)

I love ya, LW, but that was over the top.  Saying that Stardock is contributing to the ALLEGED continued neglect of his children is quite libelous, to say the least.  How is exiling a person who has a problem doing the "right thing"?  I feel that keeping in contact with that person and offering help is helping.  Turning your back doesn't help anything.

I now that people have strong feeling about what they have been presented.  But, we are not judge and jury here, and we DON'T know everything that is happening.  It seems that people are looking for a public execution here, and it's not going to happen.  So, let's cool it and move on, OK?

 

 

 

on Mar 28, 2008
And one more point. Why is expressing anger and disappointment with someone bringing out the "worst" in people?

And considering some of the flames I've seen at JU, this is not even on the chart in comparison.

I'd rather have uncomfortable honesty than phony silence.


Good question.


Most of you here don't usually come out so strong when posting replies on any article about any topic but this article has brought our a lot of anger in many and they have expressed it on here very heavily. That was what I meant by the worst in people. I find it hard to believe I had to actually explain this. Oh well, it seems this article brings more than anger but it also makes everyone testy and sensitive.
on Mar 28, 2008
Speak for yourself here, Charles. I made several phone calls to the appropriate authorities and will continue to do so. In regards to making 'sacrifices' I have no idea where you're going with that, it almost seems as if you are bitching because no one's kidnapped these children away from Gid or physically attacked him. If that's the case then have at it and stop expecting criminal behavior from others that you aren't willing to perpetrate yourself.


Like I said before, which you probably ignored (as usual), I thought you did a good thing reporting him. Of course, as usual, you make mountains out of molehills. I was not referring to committing crimes, I'm not surprised you would come to such conclusions, it's normal in you from what I read on these pages. Most the time I find you a very educated and "insightful" person but once in a while you make me wonder when you take things to such stupid extremes such as suggesting I am suggesting to commit a crime. That is just plain stupid.

It seems from time to time the obvious escapes some of the people on this site. Maybe some of you should take some time off and let your brains breath fresh air for a while. Don't you keep saying you are leaving LW, yet here you are still complaining about anything and everything. Never met a person that found something so disgusting and has no problem pointing it out at every chance yet sticks around anyways. So much anger, so much animosity, so much frustration, woman you sound like you gonna explode one of these days. Even when people say something nice to you, you come back guns a blazing. Too bad you won't have me backing down like you expect people to. I have a tong just as bad as yours if you get me started.
on Mar 28, 2008
I love ya, LW, but that was over the top. Saying that Stardock is contributing to the ALLEGED continued neglect of his children is quite libelous, to say the least. How is exiling a person who has a problem doing the "right thing"? I feel that keeping in contact with that person and offering help is helping. Turning your back doesn't help anything.


Just as I said, making mountains out of molehills. Typical of LW, then she lashes her tong hoping people will back off of her comments.

I now that people have strong feeling about what they have been presented. But, we are not judge and jury here, and we DON'T know everything that is happening. It seems that people are looking for a public execution here, and it's not going to happen. So, let's cool it and move on, OK?


Kinda funny considering she told me I'll looking to have someone kidnap his kids or beat him up. Leave it to LW to take something and turn it into the JU version of WWII.
on Mar 28, 2008
Most of you here don't usually come out so strong when posting replies on any article about any topic but this article has brought our a lot of anger in many and they have expressed it on here very heavily.


Charles, everyone has their hot buttons.

Mine personally is children, and their neglect/abuse. It's one of those buttons someone can push and I become a rabid dog..heh. Maybe not that bad..but close.

I don't consider that my worst attribute...maybe not my most logical, but certainly not my worst.

The reason I appear testy and sensitive is because I can't believe after Gid ADMITTED to the state of his home...we saw the pictures and he admitted it was that bad...how anyone can point to our anger and disgust as the problem instead of keeping the heat where it belongs.

It's not "alleged" when the perp admits to the crime. I don't have to know every single detail of someone's life to see something is wrong in Wonderland.

This isn't about a public execution...this is about allowing people who are sensitive to this situation our space to vent about it. We know Gid through JU. He lied to us through JU. We offered him help and support through JU. Is it so hard to believe we will vent our frustration, anger and disappointment on the same forum?




on Mar 28, 2008

 

It's not "alleged" when the perp admits to the crime. I don't have to know every single detail of someone's life to see something is wrong in Wonderland.This isn't about a public execution...this is about allowing people who are sensitive to this situation our space to vent about it. We know Gid through JU. He lied to us through JU. We offered him help and support through JU. Is it so hard to believe we will vent our frustration, anger and disappointment on the same forum?

What is alleged is to the degree and if it is still happening.  I believe he also stated that not everything we "know" from here is accurate and did not claim that everything said was true.

"Venting" is one thing.  Asking that somebody be removed (as has been suggested) from the site is a "public execution" ie: killing them off from the site after the mob dictated it.

We know Gid through JU.

No, you know what Gid posted on here.  The first mistake is that people take what people blog about as pure fact.  People got involved with him- that is a risk that people decide on their own to take. People have also have authorities sent to his house due to what has been written on here by other people. 

When is it enough?  When is it simply time to quit beating the dead horse and move on?  I can say that it is now because having this topic brought up over and over again is just acceptable.

Does anyone think about how this looks to a new user?  Would anyone in their right mind join a site that drags so much dirty laundry out into the open then "vents" about it for months after the fact?  It's one thing to bring it to light and let everyone know what happened.  It's a whole different issue when we continue to drag people through the mud all over the site.

 

on Mar 28, 2008

I Lied. One more thing, just for Charles--

lol...I wondered if that was going to get commented on!  hehe

on Mar 28, 2008
Mine personally is children, and their neglect/abuse. It's one of those buttons someone can push and I become a rabid dog..heh. Maybe not that bad..but close.

I don't consider that my worst attribute...maybe not my most logical, but certainly not my worst.


It would seem you and maybe the others took that a bit too specific. Reading too much into something. It's kind of a saying, bringing the worst out, not necessarily meaning "the worst" but some really strong feelings not normally seen from that particular person.

I do apologize if I offended anyone for that was not my intention. Some here seem a bit more sensitive about this particular article that I thought.

The reason I appear testy and sensitive is because I can't believe after Gid ADMITTED to the state of his home...we saw the pictures and he admitted it was that bad...how anyone can point to our anger and disgust as the problem instead of keeping the heat where it belongs.

It's not "alleged" when the perp admits to the crime. I don't have to know every single detail of someone's life to see something is wrong in Wonderland.

This isn't about a public execution...this is about allowing people who are sensitive to this situation our space to vent about it. We know Gid through JU. He lied to us through JU. We offered him help and support through JU. Is it so hard to believe we will vent our frustration, anger and disappointment on the same forum?


And I agree with you totally. I think more than just anger being thrown on this article should be done. LW took her chances and did something about it but when I applauded her for it she basically flipped the bird at me for it. I'll never understand if you don't believe you (not you specifically) are guilty of something why do you get offended over something that was not meant for you? I could care less at this point.

I say we not just throw him under the bus, but throw the bus at him afterwards.
on Mar 28, 2008
1) I never said I was leaving, I did say I've been considering it. I am.


Picky, picky. Forgive me for not being specific. I forget you require 10 links, a signed affidavit and proof of identity before one can comment to one of your replies.

2) I'm not cmplaining about 'anything and everything'...just this specific situation.


If you say so. Again, specifics a must when it comes to responding to Ms Specific over here. BTW, it's complaining, not cmplaining.

3) I don't take advice from the likes of you, Charles. You fail to see the hyprocisy in your actions, pretenting to 'rise above it' when here YOU still are, not only condemning your fellow JUsers for 'lack of action' but the entire nation for our unwillingness to 'sacrifice for children.'


Hehe, believe me when I tell you I don't expect you to. You would take advice if it meant saving your life, you're to proud for that. Especially when it's from someone like me who's not afraid of you and your comments. I guess you are not use to having people face you when you come off like a bat out of hell with your comments.

Again you ignore things just to benefit your comments (anyone ever tell you you sometimes act like Hillary), I included myself just about every time I made the comments so I did not rise above anyone. I condemned myself just as much but I guess you wouldn't know about that cause you always find ways to blame someone else.
on Mar 28, 2008
Reply #132


Good one. I guess that proves I'm human and you're shooting blanks since this is the best you can do to "fight back". Enjoy this one, I mean, after all cmplaining and pretenting are no big deals right?

I don't take advice from the likes of you, Charles. You fail to see the hyprocisy in your actions, pretenting to 'rise above it' when here YOU still are, not only condemning your fellow JUsers for 'lack of action' but the entire nation for our unwillingness to 'sacrifice for children.'



I'm not cmplaining about 'anything and everything'...just this specific situation.


Just typos I guess.
on Mar 28, 2008
You're an asshole, Charles.

And you've yet to learn the difference between a misspelling and a typo.


Took you long enough to get to name calling. Now we are truly seeing the real LW. Sure, I admit I made a mistake, sue me. You on the other hand drop it in the hands of Mr Typo, as if spellcheck programs were in short supply. But that's ok LW. I merely pointed it out since you like trying to embarrass people when ever they stand up to you, I on the other hand have learned to deal with people like you and as you can see, I have you calling me names.

Chill out LW, I'm known to get under peoples skins. I'm annoying by nature so get use to it. You guys are getting a kick out of virtually kicking the hell out of Gid on this article but when someone points to the hypocrisy of your argument you get so defensive you make insurgents look like online game players. I'll say it again, I applaud you for doing something, anything at all, to help those kids, while the rest of us sit here typing every hatred word that we can make up against a guy who doesn't give a crap anyways. I'm sure that gives you the feeling of "rising above" the rest of us and I'm sure those kids will one day appreciate it. But I hate to think they would have to meet such a sour person like you.

I'm sure I'm gonna get some nasty words after this but if LW can't dish it out, so can I. If you don't like it, bit my American made, Puerto Rican butt.

And lets not get too far away from the real purpose of this article. Get over it LW and focus on the real criminal here.
on Mar 28, 2008

Charles....ummmmm I think you need to take a cold shower. 

 

on Mar 28, 2008
Zoo, for instance, doesn't want to see me turn things around. He wants to sip mai tais in heaven and watch me roast on a spit.


...yeah, that's exactly what I said.

Hyperboles are fun, eh?

I don't even drink mai tais...

~Zoo
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