When it comes down to it, science is also a religion.  Questioning the powers that be is the heresy.  The inquisition results in the execution of reputation.

Ben Stein is right, those who are secure in their knowledge don't fear challenges.  So why do the powers that be in science fear any challenges to their paradigms?

I can understand science ignoring my opinion of things, I'm not qualified to challenge much of what science claims.  But if you want to see an example of "eating their own", just watch what happens when one scientist dares stand up to the powers that be in science.

Who says the Earth didn't have ends at that point, anyway? Or edges? And was later rolled into a ball for the sake of explorers like Cristobol Colon?

Just because it's a sphere NOW doesn't mean it was always a sphere.

You know, Zoo, I don't normally disagree with you, but you're going a bit far, here. I'll say that evolution and creation can mesh, sure, but back off of the Bible. Yes, it is fallible. Yes, it has been copied and rewritten by flawed people more times than we can count. But if you want to Bible bash with KFC, at least use the actual Bible, quote the real text, and use the SAME VERSION.


I'm done now. Have a lovely day.

Flawed versions are generally recognized as flawed. People check other people's work still, these days. So any translation that is not a true translation will get pushed aside.

ok, let's go with this zoo.  Do you ALWAYS talk in figurative language?  Hmmmm?  I'm going to assume no.  Am I correct? It's about context right?  It's the same with God Zoo.   YOu have to look at context.  Job had alot of figurative language in his writing.  His book (if you notice) is put with Psalms and Proverbs.  They are poetic books.  There are five books in the bible called poetic and Job is one of them.  So like I say....when it makes sense, seek no other sense.  

Other books of the bible are history (12).  Some others are prophetical.  Some are letters....just like you may write a letter.  So you have to figure out first what you're reading.  Some CAN'T be taken literally because it was meant as poetry.  Look at Song of Solomon (a romatic love story) and  see it's filled with metaphors. 

I'm sure.  Because if any was meant to be taken literally you'd be in trouble right?  So it's much easier and safer to fluff it off as just symbolic.   I'm not going to help you with that Zoo. 

 

 

Hmm, right then.  For any future use, which is the version of choice?

Umm...well that's an interesting viewpoint.  Shame for the poor Native Americans, though...having to hold on to the bottom of the world.

Trouble?  No...God forgives everything, so theoretically I could do horrible, horrible things and still be accepted in the end.  I don't, though...just out of general principle.  If I get in trouble for believing different things...then perhaps I've got a problem.

I can't accept that every single word of that book is true.  I know it has some good stuff in it, but there's a lot more crazy stuff being spouted in there then I'd like to devote myself to.

If I'm feeling particularly annoying, then yes.    When I'm writing I do it very often...almost constantly because it makes it so much more pleasing to read.  Like a lovely meal for the eyes and imagination.  It makes my writing breathe, take on life, become almost it's own entity, and that, that is what I view the Bible as: bigger than life stories to illustrate points, enchanting tales to remember, it is a book and every book ever written is designed to capture the audience's attention.  I believe that in this, the Bible has been quite successful.

~Zoo 

I don't agree with CB in that the bible is infallible.  But you knew that right?  But she's right, if you're going to quote scripture, at least open the book or get on a good bible site and start there.  The KJV, THE NKJV, THE NIV, THE NASB are all good.  Pick one.

Well....yes and no. You are not going to fool God Zoo.  While every sin is forgiveable there is one that is not.  Do you know what it is? 

It's all about motives and intents of the heart.  If your intent is to rebell against God all your life counting on that last breath of repenting I'd forget about it.  That's a pretty foolish avenue to take, don't you think?  It also makes you look pretty pathetic don't you think? 

I understand that, but I know that it's not for all your years of studying  this Zoo.  So where are you getting this bias from?  

like what?  Could it be that perhaps maybe you just don't understand it?   

how would you like it, if all your honest literal words I symbolized away?  I could make everything you say into anything I wish it to be.   Wouldn't that drive you crazy?  How do you think God feels to see his words taken out of context and dragged thru the mud......mostly for lack of understanding? 

I have no intent to rebel, nor any conscious will to do so. I just question things a great deal. If God were to beam down in front of me it's not like I'd punch Him in the face or yell or go nuts. In fact, I'd be pretty psyched that I'd finally get some thing straightened out.

Heh, contrary to popular belief I'm not a callous, evil, sociopath plotting only for my own gain and evil intentions.

Yeah, if I were waiting to the last day to "get on the list" so to speak then it would make me pathetic...quite pathetic indeed. Hence, I shall not...mostly because I don't want to screw other people over in my attempt to build a dark empire.



Society and history. I've seen people and read about people who call themselves Christians and proclaim such love for the Lord do such evil unto the world. That's why I question this book of love and how it springs forth such hate and intolerance.



What's not to understand about the stonings, killings, prejudice, hate, misogyny, genocide and seemingly psychotic nature of God? I know there's some universal point to prove in there...and I'd be fine with that if they were stories and just stories. If you take it as fact, do you feel no remorse or outrage at the acts committed in the name of God or by God Himself? All those people, evil or good, guilty or innocent destroyed like a pest. Blotted out of existence as one would erase a spelling error. It's just...surreal that such a loving God could take out whole populations and also without the tiniest bit of concern for the few people that may be diamonds in the rough. Probability would dictate that an entire group people would not be evil, especially to the extent where they deserve divine extermination.



Well, this often happens when women are around.   

If you want to get technical all words symbolize something seeing as how words aren't technically things themselves, just representations of them...but I digress...

Stories are often metaphors or at least carrying cases for a moral or morals. Bible has a lot of stories, most are probably not necessarily true and the cool thing is they don't have to be to convey a point. I think the points that some make are great, but the stories are probably just stories. What does the Bible teach? Love, respect, living well, etc. and etc. It doesn't say you have to take everything literally(as far as I know...maybe it does).

I wish God would send someone and make sure everything is clarified to the extent it should be.(Although, according to Mormons that's already been done. ) 2,000+ years is a long time for something to get twisted.

~Zoo

I use the King James Version, with footnotes provided by the church. But when I quote stuff, it's usually de-mormonized.



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Okay. I'm done now. Promise.