Very nice KFC, much better than my article (shameles plug) on my blog. This is a day to remember that it's more than a BBQ, a day of sales and a day off from work (in this case the following day). It's to remember what it stands for and who made it happen.

“This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it”

"Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards; there it enters the roots of the vines, to be changed into wine; a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy."

"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."

"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."

Same people, different speeches.

It would probably be a better comment if you put names with quotes, and in context:

Now you have added to the confusion. I left out the authors' names for a reason.

This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.

I used this to show that the founding fathers said all sorts of things. The quotes given by KFC were not put into context either. For example, when you read this quote:

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.

Should you take into account that "religious", back then, simply meant  "scrupulously and conscientiously faithful"?

The Franklin quote I listed is the real one. But there exists a misquote based on it, not vice versa.

As for this quote:

The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion.

I thought both John Adams and George Washington were quoting from the US' first (?) foreign treaty, the Treaty of Tripoli.

Now why would the US mention in a treaty the idea that the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion?

How do you reconcile the "moral and religious people" with "not in any sense"?

It's easy if you read "religious" and "faithful" to the laws and constitution.

You broke this thread in Firefox.  I wonder what the bug is?

I did not comment on KFC's because while there has been a lot of denial of the faith of the founders, careful reading of their works indicates they were at least Theists.  What faith they adhered to may be open for debate, but that they did believe, while denied in some quarters, is not.

They were appeasing the Musselmen that America was not a Christian nation in the sense it was not Catholic.

there were issues over the holiday so maybe that's it?  I couldn't access the forums at all for a while there. 

The problem is nobody is reading their words.  If you read their words, their letters, their books, you'd see they did have faith in God.  Today, many rely on the supposedly "anti-Christian" quotes from those who are pushing a certain agenda.    Many are trying to make the FF say what they want them to say by taking their words out of context. 

If you want the truth, you need to start reading their words, as Dr. Guy points out, in context. 

There's a fairly recent book out there debunking the faith of the founding Father's (can't remember the name but have seen it) but when you go to the back looking for footnotes it had some statement that footnotes are not needed.   And people eat that stuff up like there's no tomorrow.