Will it Work?
Published on July 12, 2008 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events

I heard about this boycott last week.  It's a boycott against McDonald's for supporting same sex marriage for throwing their money and support to the homosexual activists.  Many feel that McDonald's is abandoning those who helped make McDonald's the successful company it is namely familes with children.  I don't like McDonald's anyhow, so it doesn't really affect me.  I'd much rather go to Subway, BK,  or Wendy's anyhow. 

I didn't even know, until now,  that there was a National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, did you?  So the American Family Association has called for this boycott.  This is from their site: 

Throwing out any pretense of being neutral in the culture war, McDonald's has taken up the rhetoric of gay activists, suggesting those who oppose same-sex marriage (SSM) are motivated by hate.

AFA has asked for a boycott of McDonald's restaurants because of the company’s promotion of the gay agenda. AFA asked McDonald’s to remain neutral in the culture war. McDonald’s refused.

In response to the boycott, McDonald's spokesman Bill Whitman suggested to the Washington Post that those who oppose SSM are motivated by hate, saying "...hatred has no place in our culture." McDonald's has decided to adopt the "hate" theme used by gay activist groups for years.

Whitman went on to say, "We stand by and support our people to live and work in a society free of discrimination and harassment." Mr. Whitman has intentionally avoided addressing the reason for the boycott. This boycott is not about hiring gays or how gay employees are treated. It is about McDonald's choosing to put the full weight of their corporation behind promoting their agenda.

McDonald's donated $20,000 to the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce in exchange for membership and a seat on the group’s board of directors. The NGLCC lobbies Congress in support of same-sex marriage.

McDonald's CEO Jim Skinner said the company will promote issues they approve. "Being a socially responsible organization is a fundamental part of who we are. We have an obligation to use our size and resources to make a difference in the world...and we do."

 


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on Jul 12, 2008
Why exactly should a corporation remain neutral? Corporations are made up of people and they have as much right to a social opinion as anyone else. Seeing as there are a disproportionate number of gay people working in the food service industry this makes perfect sense to me for them to support a cause that affects them directly. Seems like a smart move on the part of McDonald's to me. Why alienate a large percentage of your employees when you could instead show support for them?

I've worked in restaurants and know first hand that a large percentage of the people working in those were gay. I also know they were good, decent human beings and I enjoyed working with them.

If a group of people with an agenda want to boycott a certain chain of businesses, I say they should go for it. They have every right to do so and I support that right. I also support the right of the people in those businesses to have their own social opinions and to support those opinions however they see fit.

The AFA is a 501c3 non-profit organization, which is in fact a type of corporation. It's pretty hypocritical of them to demand that another corporation remain neutral on social issues when they are all about social issues. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of other corporations who donate to them that they aren't demanding remain neutral. If that's their stance they should refuse any donations from any corporation. But I'm sure they won't do that. See the hypocrisy here?

Let them boycott. Maybe their kids won't be so fat.
on Jul 12, 2008
Hey, at least we'll be thin.
on Jul 12, 2008

erathoniel


psychx, I'll rebuke you for KFC. There is a thing in business where one should not endorse a political opinion, unless it is the goal of the business, or one of its blatantly stated goals.KFC has never attacked homosexuals, merely stated that she believes that homosexuality is a sin. If you don't agree with her, you don't have to attack her.xtine, I'd notice the blatant irony of this statement. The Left has been attacking every basis or morality for years. It has come around, also. Columbine. Virginia Tech. Northern Illinois University. The shootings at Colorado YWAM and New Life, at churches.Religion never condemns the sinner, merely the sin, but the sinner cannot survive with his sin.



Erathoniel,


"there is a thing in business where one should not endorse a political opinion, unless it is a goal of the business, or one of its blatantly state goals."  You're naivete is overwhelming my otherwise adept policy not to engage someone who clearly is out of the loop.  If your very simplistic idea about this THING in business were true, K Street would be lined with hot dog stands and not lobbyists.  What THING in business???!!  Is it an epithet, moral etiquette?  Is it a slogan, a creed, an abridging?  is it an oath, a decree, a social policy?  What THING are you talking about?!  You sound like a novice trying to explain business.  It's as if you're not thinking, immediately going to your predetermined arguments, the left this and the left that.  Your indoctrination is so stifling you fail to properly process my posits.  And like i said your "holier than thou" mantras propel you to regurgitate these self professed judgements all the while failing to see the irony in your own arguments.  the indoctrination runs so deep that you find my assertion that compassion should come first as an afterthought hence you focus on the homosexuality issue.  My issue was moreso against judgemental behaviour in general, but your so indignant and aghast that I could argue against intolerance toward homosexuality you process nothing else.

Oi and these political and religious leaders know the power of persuasion lies not in logical arguments, but in emotional conflagarations, as they are steeped in political win after political win.  The lowest common denominator i.e., you and me suffer because of we fail to realize where the real power lies.  Furthermore, you see my points as an attack and that is YOUR interpretation, I see it as an open call to a better understanding on KFC's part.  The minute I take an opposing stance, whatever it may be, you begin to cycle through your predetermined quips, the left did this the left did that, the sinner is not condemned blah blah blah, another carbon copy argument.  Think for yourself man.

on Jul 12, 2008
KFC is understanding. You are the one who counts the condemnation of an action as the condemnation of the individual. Are drunkards evil? No. They made a mistake at one point, and fell into drunkenness.

What you call intolerance I count conscience.
on Jul 12, 2008

"what i call this you call that"  going right back to your holier than thou, bully pulpit standpoints.  Your supposed intolerance is just one single issue I took with your comment and not the major issue either. 

My biggest "concerns" where with

1. What THING in business are you speaking of?  It's not regulatory or policy you speak of since they have not broken any laws.

2. Your thinking is obtuse and programmed, a "regurgitation" of what you've heard.

3. Where is your compassion, live and let live? 

BTW I didn't count condemnation of an action as a condemnation of an individual that was xtine.  That only further confirms my point that you are not PROCESSING what arguments are pointed in your direction.  You automatically, like a programmed robot, begin cycling through your already predetermined arguments.  Try and THINK man!

on Jul 12, 2008
There is a thing in business where one should not endorse a political opinion, unless it is the goal of the business, or one of its blatantly stated goals.


Sheer nonsense. Businesses have been contributing to political parties, candidates, and organizations since the beginning of time.
on Jul 12, 2008

so I'm condemning kfc's condemning mcdonald's support of a gay/lesbian support group?

Ok, I can live with that.

on Jul 12, 2008



There is a thing in business where one should not endorse a political opinion, unless it is the goal of the business, or one of its blatantly stated goals.Sheer nonsense. Businesses have been contributing to political parties, candidates, and organizations since the beginning of time.

 

Masons right and I might say one last thing to you before I stop looking at this thread.

Erathoniel, what you call YOUR conscience I call ignorance.

KFC develop your own way of thinking and stop being such a programmed sheep.

Both of you stop living in your little worlds and maybe do some reading and some fact searching, maybe soul searching because your little world is sheltered by 12 foot thick concrete walls away from reality. 

on Jul 12, 2008

2. Your thinking is obtuse and programmed, a "regurgitation" of what you've heard.

Bullcrap. It's a "regurgitation" of what I've read and meditated on, and come to a conclusion on.

3. Where is your compassion, live and let live?

What is the compassion in allowing the blind to stumble?

BTW I didn't count condemnation of an action as a condemnation of an individual that was xtine. That only further confirms my point that you are not PROCESSING what arguments are pointed in your direction. You automatically, like a programmed robot, begin cycling through your already predetermined arguments. Try and THINK man!

Did I put an @psychx before the statement? If so, then I forgot to push the enter button before. Else, I should be known for writing wide-angle responses.

Erathoniel, what you call YOUR conscience I call ignorance.

I call it biblical.

Both of you stop living in your little worlds and maybe do some reading and some fact searching, maybe soul searching because your little world is sheltered by 12 foot thick concrete walls away from reality.

What does this have to do with opinions, as opposed to very practical protection from nuclear and conventional bombing?

Sheer nonsense. Businesses have been contributing to political parties, candidates, and organizations since the beginning of time.

And it's a total waste.

on Jul 12, 2008
And it's a total waste.


That may be your opinion, but what about the businesses that contribute to the AFA? Is that also a total waste in your opinion? Or is it only a total waste when it's for something with which you disagree? They are a political lobby group, or didn't you know that?

on Jul 12, 2008
It was Wal-Mart.

And I was mistaken. They did pledge to give x amount, but there were other allegations made by the AFA regarding WM that were incorrect.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/walmart.asp

I was (partially) wrong about that. Sorry.
on Jul 12, 2008

It's a waste when the darn corporations waste money they're entrusted to make better and cheaper products with on giving out cash to the weak politicians who insist upon recieveing money from corporations and can't use the government fair elections systems and instead insist upon using private cash and being set towards private interests whether they choose to or not.

on Jul 12, 2008
It's a waste when the darn corporations waste money they're entrusted to make better and cheaper products with on giving out cash to the weak politicians who insist upon recieveing money from corporations and can't use the government fair elections systems and instead insist upon using private cash and being set towards private interests whether they choose to or not.


Really? And who exactly "entrusts" these companies with money to make "better and cheaper products"? You seem to have a very strange idea of what a corporation is and what they do. A corporation's sole function is to make a profit. That's it, nothing more. What they choose to do with those profits is their business.

I'm beginning to think you may live in a different reality.
on Jul 12, 2008

MasonM, I know I said I wouldn't comment again, but you're spot on man.  Erathoniel, I'm beggining to think, myself, that you have lived a very sheltered life.  For your sake from now on you should repeat in your head, I'm going to do more research on this matter from SEVERAL sources, before I make a decision.  Because you see if you got to a single source and use that sole source as your guide through the very complex world, you will find yourself at odds with reality.  Good luck and good night.

on Jul 12, 2008

Really? And who exactly "entrusts" these companies with money to make "better and cheaper products"? You seem to have a very strange idea of what a corporation is and what they do. A corporation's sole function is to make a profit. That's it, nothing more. What they choose to do with those profits is their business.

I beg to differ. What does giving do? I give as an individual, sure, but why should a corporation interested only in making profits give? Selfishness? Corruption? Think about it.

MasonM, I know I said I wouldn't comment again, but you're spot on man. Erathoniel, I'm beggining to think, myself, that you have lived a very sheltered life. For your sake from now on you should repeat in your head, I'm going to do more research on this matter from SEVERAL sources, before I make a decision. Because you see if you got to a single source and use that sole source as your guide through the very complex world, you will find yourself at odds with reality. Good luck and good night.

Smart Comment: psychx is going to do much more research on this matter from SEVERAL sources, psychx is going to do much more research on this matter from SEVERAL sources, psychx is going to do much more research on this matter from SEVERAL sources. What did that do?

I've never been at odds with reality. I beg to differ. I just am too emotionless, too cold, yet too attatched, too involved, logical and irrational to see everything in your ways. I am the paradox that would build the world into the greatest civilization yet make it lose its soul. Mayhaps you forget that I have half religious, half dystopian backgrounds, and I know the darkness that people are capable of yet I believe in working for the light. Therefore I find what others accept unacceptable.

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