No Logic to be seen
Published on October 23, 2007 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events
I guess this is just one of those headline news stories that just makes one want to bang their head against the wall. Ha! Reminds me of trying to instill logic to one of my boys when he was 14-15 after he would make some illogical comment or decision. Instead of talking to the wall, it was easier to bang one's head against it.

I'm talking about the totally inappropriate decision made by the School Board over the Birth Control Issue for the middle school here. Yes, I'm still trying to understand this whole thing. This committee has failed to protect our children. Leading our children to contraception has done nothing but fail our children. Who do they think they're kidding?

I read a quote today from the Associated Press from one who supported the vote. Richard Verrier said: "It's not enough to depend on parents to protect their children because there may be students who can't discuss things with their parents."

Not enough? Did you hear what he said. Parents aren't doing their jobs so the government has to step up and take their place? So putting them on BC is "protecting" them? This should be a wake up call to all parents out there. Watch your schools people!!

Any loving parent of a middle schooler would tell you that anyone encouraging or enabling a child to engage in sexual behavior at this age is not doing their job. But rather than teach, mentor or direct a child AWAY from this activity it's much easier to placate them with BC pills. Who exactly is benefitting here?

So now you have an 11 year old with her pack of pills. Is she going to be thinking she's "protected" now? What are the chances, first of all she will remember even to take this pill daily, and second of all still insist on condoms for STD's? I mean it's hard enough for them to even remember to take their vitamins or brush their teeth.

I really hate the logic behind all this. "well they are going to do it anyway so we should help protect them." Really? Last I knew it was a state law for a child under 14 or 16 to have sex. It's against the law people!!! So aren't we enabling them to break the law? How do we reconcile it's against the law for minors to have sex and giving them birth control to do so? I'm scratching my head here.......it's less painful than banging.

With that logic, I'd like to suggest we put down a big bowl of cigarettes in their homeroom at school and say, "go ahead you're going to do it anyway. Let us help. It's on us. We'll take care of the costs."

How about drugs? Isn't BC a drug? Why not bring in other drugs? How about steroids for the football players? They're taking them anyway. Might as well help them after we instruct them for proper usuage.

As John Stossell says......gimme a break.




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on Oct 24, 2007
"how do you reconcile that God rewarded your son and your family with a marvelous little miracle after your son so gravely sinned (your belief, not mine)?"

The kid's never the punishment, at least not directly. The punishment part is a dimished ministry in this area and no leg to stand on when telling your kid they should wait. Doh!

Regardless, it's not nearly the same argument when you get to high school and college as it is with middle school kids.
on Oct 24, 2007
ONe out of 20 is not one person. It is about 15 million. Learn to read statistics correctly.


So sorry, I will spell it out this time. It worked for that one person out of twenty. Did I state one person out of 260 million? Nope, didn't think so. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not.
on Oct 24, 2007
So sorry, I will spell it out this time. It worked for that one person out of twenty. Did I state one person out of 260 million? Nope, didn't think so. I thought that was pretty clear but I guess not.


Nope, you did not say out of 260 million (the correct figure is 300 million0, but you did say "one person" which indicates you did not extrapolate or think beyond that "one in" number.

And as others have pointed out better than I did, that 1 in 20 includes everyone - inluding those never married, or married late in life (like 30 or later), not the number of 14 year olds (or younger) doing the horizontal dance.
on Oct 24, 2007
But with so many parents refusing to face facts themselves, educating and preparing their children for something 95% of them are going to do, (while convincing themselves that THEIR precious bundles of joy will be among the 5% who don't) I can see why it's become necessary.


While I can see, understand and agree with your point, I still can not accept the idea of giving drugs to a child without the parents consent. I waited till I was 18 before I had my first experience. I did wanna wait till marriage but seeing as how I had very bad luck with girls back then I found myself jumping the gun when the opportunity presented itself, probably for fear the chance may never present itself again. Of course I was acting out of a child's mentality, I see things very differently now a days.

I think it's a shame that our society has reached such a level of laziness, irresponsibility and ignorance that we need to have universal, 1 size fits all protection just to keep our race from extinguishing itself.
on Oct 24, 2007
Males aged 18-59 reporting first sexual intercourse before age 15= 15% 45 million
Females aged 18-59 reporting first sexual intercourse before age 15 =6% 18 million


Hmmm, This statistic suggests two possibilities. Either the underage males are having sex with older gals or the under 15 gals are taking more than one V-Cards from the boys (3 to 1)?

on Oct 24, 2007
KFC, did your other son tell you he wasn't waiting until marriage,


no he didn't but the other two have verbalized this. My youngest and his bride to be are wearing purity rings. These rings serve as a reminder of what a great wedding night my son and new wife will have. They will formally give them up in a ceremony at the wedding.

how do you reconcile that God rewarded your son and your family with a marvelous little miracle after your son so gravely sinned (your belief, not mine)?


many children are born healthy and beautiful as a result of their parent's sins. No diff here. My son has not acknowledged Christ as his Lord. The other two have and do their best to live it. That's the difference.

And it's not over yet. When you plant something, it takes a while to reap the fruit of what you've planted. It doesn't happen overnight.

I've seen a big difference just in my own family of neices and nephews paying the price for their parents mistakes. None of them haven taken the purity vow. So that's 0%. Instead all of my sons' young cousins are either involved in dope, alcohol or premarital sex. It's sad. Of course, I don't want that for Ethan.

It may take a while, and I hope Ethan isn't going to be like his second cousins, but if my middle son continues in the way he is now, his son may pay the price eventually growing up with the same thought patterns. I pray not.

I think that sticking our heads in the sand and pretending like teaching abstainance is the cure is, frankly, silly. I mean, it didn't even work for your own kids (67% success rate is still a D) -- so what makes you think it will work for anyone else's?


First of all 67% is quite high in today's standards especially given the 5% figure Loca has come up with. So obviously training at home does make a difference.

Second of all, if you were going to go by the families that teach abstinence and those that don't you would see that abstinence does work. Sex after marriage is much higher in Christian kids living their faith than the average kids with no faith.

In fact, in a few test cases around the country abstinence education has proven itself to be very successful, something not advertised too much in the secular media. There's no way we are going to ever get 100% but it does work. For one thing it lets the kids off the hook. They don't have to give into the pressure that's all around them. They are given answers and support for their decision to abstain.





on Oct 24, 2007
Males aged 18-59 reporting first sexual intercourse before age 18 = 55%, or 165 million.

Females aged 18-59 reporting first sexual intercourse before age 18 = 43%, or 129 million.

Total: 98%, (so if Loca's 1 out of 95% figure is accurate, we'll assume that 3% of these minors are married.)

Still, that leaves 285 million people (95% of our population) who have engaged in sexual intercourse before they were of legal age to do so in most states. (What shall we do, lock them up?)




sorry there are not 300 million women in this country. sorry there are not 300 million men in this country. sorry there are not 300 million people in this country over 13.

there are only 300 million people in this country. so your numbers are off by at least double what they should say.
on Oct 24, 2007
Thanks Daniel, good point.

165 Million + 129 Million = 294 Million / 2 = 147 Million

So about 50%.

Like I said, the high school/college argument is a little different than the middle school argument.
on Oct 24, 2007
I was quoting the figures cited as a percentage of the population, daniel, a figure brought into the discussion by the DoN,


Better recheck your reading skills. I merely applied "1 in 20" to 300 million. I do not vouch for the accuracy of the numbers, only the validity of the math.
on Oct 24, 2007
Gimme a Break


Gimme a break of that Kit-Kat Bar...

I had to do it...



~Zoo

on Oct 24, 2007
No, you didn't.

But you did it anyway. And for that, we salute you, Mr. Always Brings Up A Commercial Guy.
on Oct 24, 2007
Gimme a Break
Gimme a break of that Kit-Kat Bar...


Actually, there's one more "Gimme a Break" if you want to get technical. But thanks, that was getting pretty intense for a while there.

I'll say this for abstinence. I'm proud to be the one in twenty. But what I don't get is why the government would do this. In my experience in public education, the only thing that teachers could discuss, birth control-wise, was abstinence. Huh. Well, all I know is that teaching abstinence worked for the majority (not all, but the majority) of my friends and family. And most of us are at least eighteen.
on Oct 24, 2007
Mr. Always Brings Up A Commercial Guy.


Have I done this before?    Well if I did it was probably funny...

Actually, there's one more "Gimme a Break" if you want to get technical. But thanks, that was getting pretty intense for a while there.


I haven't seen that commercial for few years...but yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right.


Sometimes you just got to bring it down a little.

~Zoo

on Oct 24, 2007
One of "ParaTed2k's (Not So) Famous Sayings is, "The parents of the future will not only allow the government to raise their kids, they will insist the government do so". Portland, Maine is giving us an example of just how true that statement is. The school board of Portland Maine has usurped authority they have no right to take. They have stolen the rights of parents to make medical decisions for their kids. They are also putting students at risk. This school board should be removed at brought up on charges for their crimes. I'm glad there is an uproar of opposition to this policy, it shows there are still parents willing to put fascist thugs in their place. Any "educator" who makes the blanket statement "your parents don't need to know about this" shouldn't be involved in education, period. Yes, there are parents who don't care, and there are parents who would abuse or even kill their kids for being sexually active. So, act against abuse, don't assume all parents are abusive. If I had kids in that "school" system, they would be removed immediately.... until the stormtroopers on the school board were removed.
on Oct 24, 2007
It is
"Gimme a break, gimme a break, break me off a piece of that Kit-Kat-Bar!"

And I was parodying the Budweiser Real Men of Genius Commercial... oh the irony.
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