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Published on July 11, 2007 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events
Here are some current events I'm eyeballing right now.

A few days ago Missouri Gov Matt Blunt signed a bill that abortion providers will NOT be allowed to present information about sexual health in the state's public schools. Hooray for Governor Blunt. Going against the powerful PP is not easy.

He said:

"All life is precious and needs to be treated with the utmost dignity and respect, I will continue working with the Missouri General Assembly to pass strong pro-life legislation that respects the sanctity and dignity of all human life."


So no more Planned Parenthood Agenda being pushed in Missouri schools. Hip Hip Hooray! Now let's boot them out of the classrooms of the next 49 states.
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Tomorrow the U.S. Senate will be opened up for the first time with a non-monotheistic prayer. Instead a Hindu chaplain from Reno, Nevada, by the name of Rajan Zed is scheduled to deliver the opening prayer in the U.S. Senate. Zed tells the Las Vegas Sun that in his prayer he will likely include references to ancient Hindu scriptures, including Rig Veda, Upanishards, and Bhagavard-Gita. Historians believe it will be the first Hindu prayer ever read at the Senate since it was formed in 1789.

Why is the U.S. government is seeking the invocation of a non-monotheistic god? The Hindu's believe in many gods. How does this jive with "One Nation Under God?" The founders, religous or not spoke of their "creator." David Barton, historian says he knows of at least seven cases where Christians have lost their bid to express their own faith in a public prayer.

Many Christians with even just a slight knowledge of the OT understand the implications. Reaching out to pagan gods to appease people got Israel in a whole heap of trouble. I think tomorrow will be a sad day for America as we turn our backs on the God that made our country strong. Is this the last nail in the coffin of Christian America? I think it's time I called my Senators.

Have you ever heard of Stephen Bennett? If not, you may as he's going on a tour of all 50 states with five other former Homosexuals who have left the homosexual lifestyle behind. For more than a decade he lived the homosexual lifestyle but says he's been set free through a relationship with Christ. He says he wants to help set others free from same-sex attractions.

This tour, called 2 Corinthians 5:17 will include a program of about 1 1/2 hours in length and will be both an evangelical concert and testimonial. He's beginning in September and will have gone to all 50 states in about a two year period.
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More than a year ago the American Family Association called for a boycott of Ford Motor Co because of their continued support of homosexuals. Since then Ford's sales have dropped 8.1% comparing last month's June figures with last year's June figures. Overall sales for 2007 are 11 percent lower than 2006. In addition, 700,000 families have pledged they will not buy from Ford and will honor the boycott. Is it because the boycott is working or is it because Ford's products aren't worth buying?

While this is all happening at the same time the other side is gearing up as well. About 1,500 homosexuals from 25 countries learned at a conference this month how to get their governments to favor homosexuality.

The conference, held in Scottsdale, Ariz., and sponsored by the Metropolitan Community Church, hosted delegates from countries where homosexual behavior is outlawed, such as Jamaica and Nigeria. They're on a mission.
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and just for fun, I read in the news about the man who dressed up as a tree to rob a bank. He duct taped branches with leaves all over his face and head area and demanded money of a bank teller. He got away with an undisclosed sum but somebody recognized his picture on the news and called him in. I guess they had to defoilate him before they booked him. Gotta give him credit for originality but I don't think his roots went too deep.










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on Jul 14, 2007
Mason, it seems that you have latched onto the relativist idea of religious indifferentism.


No, actually I haven't. That is merely your own misinterpretation of what I wrote. Try reading my words using dictionary definitions instead of your own interpretations.



Do you really believe that Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is equal to Christianity?


Equal in what way? If you mean equal in terms of their right to express themselves in the United States, then yes I certainly do.

If you mean equal in terms of the moral standards they strive to impart to their adherents, that is far too subjective to answer objectively. I would put it to those who claim some sort of moral superiority to prove it objectively. The basics of how we are supposed to treat one another are very similar in each of the religions you named so I would ask in what way you feel that yours are somehow superior to theirs.

This is the biggest problem I have with people who put religion ahead of spiritual faith. The "My religion is better than your religion" mentality. It goes back to people's core tribal nature.

The followers of every single religion on the planet believe that theirs is the "right" one and frankly none can prove it objectively. I personally believe in the God of Abraham, and that Jesus is in fact the son of God. I believe this to be true, but that certainly doesn't give me the right to insult someone else for their own religious beliefs which are just as true and valid to them. Nor does it give me the right to try and suppress their right to express their religion in public or in government.

Should we pass an amendment stating that only Christians may be elected to government office, or that those of different religions who are elected may in no way express their beliefs in public?

I am a person of spiritual faith not of religion. You can keep your religion if it makes you happy and I would be the first to support your right to do so. I want nothing to do with it as I do not believe that any Christian denomination (or any other religion) is without Man's corruption.

Does that clarify things for you a bit?

on Jul 14, 2007
KFC Writes:
Tomorrow the U.S. Senate will be opened up for the first time with a non-monotheistic prayer...a Hindu chaplain is scheduled to deliver the opening prayer in the U.S. Senate. Zed tells the Las Vegas Sun that in his prayer he will likely include references to ancient Hindu scriptures, including Rig Veda, Upanishards, and Bhagavard-Gita. Historians believe it will be the first Hindu prayer ever read at the Senate since it was formed in 1789.

Why is the U.S. government is seeking the invocation of a non-monotheistic god? The Hindu's believe in many gods.... I think tomorrow will be a sad day for America as we turn our backs on the God that made our country strong.


I, too, think it was a sad day for America.


So Daiho Hilbert Reply #52

Christians do not have a corner on the love market. Hinduism is based on love; Buddhism is based on love. Not the concept of love, not the notion of love, but the practice of love. Moreover, one of the major differences is that both Hinduism and Buddhism are more practices than belief systems (although, in the former there is an extensive belief system).



So Daiho, I respectfully disagree.

Please note that KFC's initial remarks concern prayer to the one Creator God.
Neither the belief system of nor the practices of Hinduism and Buddhism is based on the love of the one Creator God. In the area of love, worship and prayer to Almighty God, there is no compatibliity between Hinduism, Buddhism and that of Christianity.

on Jul 14, 2007
there is no compatibliity between Hinduism, Buddhism and that of Christianity.


I think if you followed the discussion Cacto and I had, you would see there is a lot of compatibility between Hinduism and Christianity. I will leave Buddhism to Sodaiho as I am not well versed in that dogma.
on Jul 14, 2007
Equal in what way? If you mean equal in terms of their right to express themselves in the United States, then yes I certainly do.

If you mean equal in terms of the moral standards they strive to impart to their adherents, that is far too subjective to answer objectively. I would put it to those who claim some sort of moral superiority to prove it objectively. The basics of how we are supposed to treat one another are very similar in each of the religions you named so I would ask in what way you feel that yours are somehow superior to theirs.

This is the biggest problem I have with people who put religion ahead of spiritual faith. The "My religion is better than your religion" mentality. It goes back to people's core tribal nature.

The followers of every single religion on the planet believe that theirs is the "right" one and frankly none can prove it objectively. I personally believe in the God of Abraham, and that Jesus is in fact the son of God. I believe this to be true, but that certainly doesn't give me the right to insult someone else for their own religious beliefs which are just as true and valid to them. Nor does it give me the right to try and suppress their right to express their religion in public or in government.

Should we pass an amendment stating that only Christians may be elected to government office, or that those of different religions who are elected may in no way express their beliefs in public?

I am a person of spiritual faith not of religion. You can keep your religion if it makes you happy and I would be the first to support your right to do so. I want nothing to do with it as I do not believe that any Christian denomination (or any other religion) is without Man's corruption.

Does that clarify things for you a bit?



mason,,,i know ya hate my guts and all...but i gotta hand it ot ya there...extremely well said!
on Jul 14, 2007
Concerning my question:
Do you really believe that Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is equal to Christianity?






you said:

If you mean equal in terms of the moral standards they strive to impart to their adherents, that is far too subjective to answer objectively.


Is it far too objective to answer objectively, MasonM? If so, how do you explain what you wrote just prior to this:


MASONM POSTS: This implies that the moral standards of other religions are somehow inferior, and happens to be the comment to which I was responding. If that isn't insulting I don't know what is.




on Jul 14, 2007
Do you really believe that Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is equal to Christianity?


By what standard?


In recognition, conviction, belief and worship of the one true God.
on Jul 14, 2007
In recognition, conviction, belief and worship of the one true God.


But who defines "one true God"? By the myopic vision of some sects of Christianity, they define it. But then so does the other religions. They define their god as the ONE TRUE GOD. Since I am not God, nor are any mortals on this planet, who is to say which one is the ONE TRUE GOD?

But better yet, how do you know that they GOD they worship is NOT the one true God? Buddhists do not worship a God per se (So Daiho can correct me on this), but place the emphasis on the self, which in the Christian world is akin to the Spirit, a manifestation of God (or a facet). So if they are seeking elightenment, through one facet of God, who is to say that they will not find it? You do not travel many paths to reach the goal. you chose one path and hope it gets you there. But that does not mean the one you chose is the only one that can get you there.
on Jul 14, 2007

Concerning my question:
Do you really believe that Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is equal to Christianity?






you said:

If you mean equal in terms of the moral standards they strive to impart to their adherents, that is far too subjective to answer objectively.


Is it far too objective to answer objectively, MasonM? If so, how do you explain what you wrote just prior to this:


Nothing is too objective to answer objectively. That's a nonsensical statement.


MASONM POSTS: This implies that the moral standards of other religions are somehow inferior, and happens to be the comment to which I was responding. If that isn't insulting I don't know what is.







What exactly do you not understand in that statement? It seems pretty clear to me and I thought I explained it quite well in reply #61 (of which you quoted part) for those who do not seem to understand simple statements.

If your reading comprehension skills are lacking, I am sorry. I don't know how I could put it more plainly. I'd kindly suggest getting out a dictionary and looking up the definitions of the words I chose to use including the words objective and subjective as they seem to be confusing you.



on Jul 14, 2007
In recognition, conviction, belief and worship of the one true God.


That in itself is nothing more than a subjective, self-serving statement not a standard, and falls far short of actually answering the question. A Muslim could make exactly the same reply and it would be just as valid to him or her, and just as subjective and meaningless in the context of the actual question.
on Jul 14, 2007
That in itself is nothing more than a subjective, self-serving statement not a standard, and falls far short of actually answering the question.


We should coordinate our answers. But you say it in fewer words than I do.
on Jul 14, 2007
Mason, it seems that you have latched onto the relativist idea of religious indifferentism. Think about it. Do you really believe that Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is equal to Christianity?


Hinduism, Buddhism, Wiccanism and Christianity are religions each based on their own set of moral standards.

CHristianity is based on the moral standards of God as revealed by, through and with Jesus Christ.


Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is based on the moral standards of -----------(you fill in the blank).

And after you've filled in the blank, perhaps you can better explain what you meant when you said:

1)---If you mean equal in terms of the moral standards they strive to impart to their adherents, that is far too subjective to answer objectively.

2)----This implies that the moral standards of other religions are somehow inferior, and happens to be the comment to which I was responding. If that isn't insulting I don't know what is.


on Jul 14, 2007
CHristianity is based on the moral standards of God as revealed by, through and with Jesus Christ.


Hinduism, Buddhism, and Wiccanism is based on the moral standards of -----------(you fill in the blank).


According to the adherents of these other religions you've mentioned, Christianity is based on the moral standards of some bloke (who may in fact be imaginary, since there's no actual proof as to his existence) named Jesus something.

You can't prove that Christ existed, just like you can't prove that Christianity is the one true religion. It's not possible. That's the point of any religion - faith. Stop stepping all over the faith of others just because you think yours is better. Such talk is not only unconvincing, it's unChristian.
on Jul 14, 2007
Hinduism, Buddhism, Wiccanism and Christianity are religions each based on their own set of moral standards.

CHristianity is based on the moral standards of God as revealed by, through and with Jesus Christ.


No, those religions are based upon your perception of them, not the reality of them. I dare say that I am not qualified to speak for any of them, let alone state what they are based upon. And yet, I have studied some with an open mind to discern how they came to be, and I have yet to discern what they are based upon. Perhaps they heard "the word" before Christians did. Perhaps they did not. Perhaps they are based upon secularism. perhaps they are not.

I only know that I know not. And that I can only judge based upon their actions (if we are to base Christianity on solely the words of the doctrine - then the religion is small indeed).
on Jul 14, 2007
(who may in fact be imaginary, since there's no actual proof as to his existence) named Jesus something.


Actually, they have kind of proved he existed. Other than that, the rest of your answer is very good and right on. besides, we know that Mohammed existed. That does not make Islam THE religion, only that it was founded by a corporeal being.
on Jul 14, 2007
And after you've filled in the blank, perhaps you can better explain what you meant when you said:


You seem to be extremely obtuse. I have already answered this, twice in fact. Is English not your native language?

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