Anybody want a dog?
Published on October 5, 2006 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Pets & Nature
What a dog I have!! He's the type that you read about in Reader's Digest after being buried in someone's back yard. In this case it could be titled, "My Dog Quincy, A Dog You Hate to Love" Everyone should have at least one dog like this in their lifetime. If for no other reason, it gives you something to talk about. When he's not in trouble, he's the most loveable dog you'd ever met. He's loved by everyone who meets him. He's loaded with personality and he smiles when he gets in trouble. It's hilarious.

He is always getting in trouble. That's the problem. He's got a type A personality for sure. He's a hound mix, possibly mixed in with Lab but can't be sure and is about 55 lbs. We went to the shelter in 2000 and picked him out. Oh wait, let me clarify. I picked out a dog named Ginger. It was my husband who picked Quincy, a dog about a year old. Later he blamed it on my pressuring him since it was March with tax season more than a little underway. He said he was bleary eyed and not capable of making a dog life decision quite like this. But hey, once I committed to this pet, no turning back for me. Quincy came very close to going back more than once and would have, had I not been around to save his sorry butt more than once. No wonder he loves me so much.

We should have known!! On the way home that first day, he threw up in my husband's car. Within a day we figured out he had separation anxiety which meant leaving him alone was not a good idea. He followed me around the house constantly laying at my feet. I swear he wouldn't sleep for fear I'd leave him. I found out really quickly that we had a problem dog when I came home from shopping one day and found the house in shambles especially the patio door and window grill inserts. They were not only on the floor scattered about but also many of them were broken, chewed up. Seems as tho our lonely pooch was trying to get out of the house. I consulted a vet. He gave me a video and said there are drugs available but that I could possibly, with work, train him out of this.

So we had to figure out what we were going to do. Most of the time we'd try to have someone home with him at all times but that was not going to work forever. I remember one day tying him to the porch with a nice long chain only to find him running around hours later when I got home with this long chain still around his neck. We started calling him Houdini Dog. Many chains later, we got a nice heavy duty long one, and eventually started to tie him in the garage leaving the garage door open. It's like a big dog house. He's got a bed, food and water and if he pees, so what? It's a garage floor. We're all happy with this arrangement now.

One of the signs of a dog with separation anxiety is they pee and crap on the floor. This happened so many times I cannot count. Most of the time tho he did this in the cellar. He's peed just about on every tool, paint can, wall, or ladder that he could find down there. One time he managed to pee in a can of nails. My husband was furious. Each time there was a threat to send him back. Alot of times this would happen at night so we tried to tie him up. In the very beginning we made a structure out of scrap wood and tied him to it. He peed on it. He'd bark and cry so that didn't work well. Nothing worked well until we finally got a crate for him but only used it at night. After a few nights he acclimated to it very well and that helped tremendously. He still did his thing" on occasion if we left him alone for too long, but for the most part there was "relief" in more ways than one.

Within the first few weeks of his arrival here, he met a porcupine and a skunk, not on the same day but close enough. He had and still does have the run of the yard. I never had to worry about him taking off. He wouldn't leave us. We live at the end of a dirt road surrounded by woods. We couldn't get rid of him if we tried. The porcupine incident happened in the middle of a meeting I had here at the house. It was dusk and the dog came in with about 47 needles sticking all over his face and paws. It was hilarious cuz he seemed a bit stunned not knowing what to think and just kept walking around. I still get comments about that six years later. Boy that was work taking those quills out. We pulled everyone out, to the vet's surprise, with a good pair of pliars. It was one tool I don't think he ever peed on btw.

One day I came home to discover he peed on my husband's jeans way up on the second floor in our bedroom. He's not allowed up stairs. While up there he helped himself to the cat's food in the upstairs bathroom. Another day, I came home and found he had trapped himself in my son's bedroom upstairs somehow shutting the door on himself. Again he managed to wipe out the cat food before locking himself in. The rug by the door was all dug up, shredded actually and many scratches were found on the nicely stained solid wood door trying to get out. Wonderful. What else could he possibly do? So I started blocking the entry to the upstairs if I left him alone in the house especially on bitterly cold days.

This was now the second door he scratched up. When we first got him and recognized his anxiety, we left him in the cellar with all he needed thinking that would be best. We thought the worst thing he could do was use the cellar as his personal toilet. Wrong. Oh he did do that and more. We came home to find much damage to the cellar door leading into the kitchen. Another d solid wood door added to the pile of things to fix. Deep scratches on this one.

Another time a friend of mine watched him for the day and put him back in the garage where he's most comfortable. I had specifically told her not to shut the garage door. Well she did. She thought it was cold and windy and that would be better for him. NOT!! I came home to see fine scratches all over my new car where he tried to jump up to see out the window. He also did some damage to the garage door where the rubber seal was on the door. Another job for my husband to do. By this time alot of griping was being done by my sweet husband. He said all he did was fix what destructo dog was doing and he kept threatening to take him back to the shelter. Of course I'd remind him that it was HE who picked out this dog. It wasn't my first pick.

Everytime Quincy would get in trouble and we'd scold him, he'd drag his butt, literally on the floor, to us trying to smile the whole time leaving little pee spots along the way. It's all I can do to not laugh. My husband would say, "it's not funny." But you can't help it. It's a riot. He only did such things when he was left alone. The rest of the time destructo dog was more like delightful dog.

About two years ago he developed a fear of thunder storms. Great. Another problem. He starts to pace, then pant, then look for some place to crawl under, usually my legs if I'm sitting down in a chair or he just follows me around. One day this summer I was not expecting a storm and had left him on the screen porch, another place he likes. The storm came, he panicked and busted out of the screen porch. When I got home, no Quincy. I called and called for him and had to finally call the vet, the shelter and the dog catcher. The next day I got a call from a woman who had found him two miles from my home on a somewhat busy road. He was in the middle of the road, in the middle of the storm looking at every car that went slowly by. He was looking for my car she said. She scooped him up. She said he got right in. She also said if she didn't find his owner she decided to keep him.

This was the second time he ran away. The first time was about a year earlier. My neighbor who loves Quincy and usually has him over for dinner as well as sleepovers was watching him while we were away. My son came home. So David now was supposed to have dog duty. A storm hit the area and Quincy was out. Evidently the neighbors were not home and David was not paying attention and Quincy ran away looking for another human body to hide under. When I got home two days later no one had noticed him gone. David thought the neighbors had him and the neighbors thought David had him. Great. I called everyone I knew and nobody had seen him. Finally called the vet in town and they said they had a dog of his description. They were going to take him to the shelter but he was shaking so badly they didn't think he'd do well with all the commotion of a shelter. An aide found him in the middle of the road in a thunderstorm. I had to prove he was my dog. One of the ladies at the vet's decided to keep him. She thought he was just the most polite dog she'd ever seen. It's just that loveable personality that gets ya.

This is the irony of it all. He's well behaved and will do everything you tell him to when he's around you. Everyone that has had him over loves him. I never need to ask others to take him when we go on vacation. He has a long list of people who actually ask if they can have him when we go away. He understands everything you tell him. He doesn't need to be leashed, ever. The only time he's run away was during those two storms, and it was to look for us.

Everytime we leave him with someone when we go away they always gush over how well behaved he is and that they'd love to have him again. It never fails that my husband offers to give them Quincy. They think he's joking. He's not. He's still repairing the damage that's been done in the last six years. He says that's all he does. Fix Quincy's messes.

Last night. We called for him before we went to bed. He's usually right on the steps waiting for us. He wasn't there. No storm. No dog. A bit unusual. Great. Now what? We opened the garage door in case he was in there by mistake. No dog came out as we opened it from the house. We went to bed. I couldn't sleep but like I said, we can't seem to lose him. I prayed for him thinking he's out there somewhere. It was a warm night and he had eaten. I'll make the calls in the am I thought. We got up. No Quincy. Now I was worried, so I started to pray that we'd find him once again, safe and sound.

My husband went out to the garage to bring out trash and found him in the car. He had jumped thru the window of my husband's car and couldn't get back out. More griping. Seems as tho Quincy, getting a bit older, had some trouble just leaping in thru the window. He left quite a few scratches all over the door under the window in his attempt to get in for some unknown reason. He's never done that before.

Will this ever end? My husband's new plan? To NOT pick the dog up from my mom's after we go away on vacation next month. She's next in line for having Quincy over. She may be getting more than she bargained for.

A Dog named Quincy. A Dog you hate to love.









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on Oct 09, 2006
That, m'dear, is a big fat lie.


From the Queen of Liars.

KFC, just BL her. Then she will just follow you around on other blogs and write lies, and then write articles blatantly lying about you and what you said. With quotes out of context of course (that is the way Liberals do it). But then you can ignore her and not worry about her venom. Most will not believe her and the ones that do, you need not worry about. They would believe that the moon is made of green cheese.
on Oct 09, 2006
KFC, just BL her.


I have never BL anyone up until now. I really hate to do that but am very tempted here. I'm up for and ok with constructive criticisms but this is way over the top. She is one of two that serve no purpose on my blog than to routinely find something to insult me about. The other will be nameless but she knows who she is. I've actually deleted two comments, one from each of them that served only to insult without any provocation and was nothing but mean spirited adding nothing to the subject matter.

I have noticed the lies as well. One on another site, I chose to ignore even tho another seized the opportunity to comment on the lie that she put forth. I just didn't want to get into another argument. For the life of me, I still cannot understand the animosity here.

I always want to extend the olive branch of friendship to even my worst enemy. I'm a firm believer in you reap what you sow and I'll always try to take the high road even tho it's becoming increasingly difficult to do so here with LW. I have a great story of doing just such a thing in "real" life and have a good friend as a result of NOT lashing back. Believe me, there''s been some stuff I would love to say to LW but I'm doing my best to refrain because it will serve no purpose but to further ignite the blaze.

LW

No, I did not seek professional training nor did I think I needed to spend the time and money to do so. That's why I said I went to the vet and obtained a video in which a professional gave ideas to modify the behaviour. I did take to heart the things learned on the video and implemented them. Much of what I tried, did work. It's not something that will ever go away. This anxiety is ingrained in him. He was abandoned on the side of the road with a blanket when he was approx a year old. Please be assured, he's in a very loving home. I don't think we could get rid of him if we tried.

Does that meet with your approval? Now please answer my earlier questions if you'd please. You accuse me of what you yourself do not do, so I'll ask again the questions I asked of you previously.

1. Didn't your mother teach you better manners?

2. YOU ASSUME THE WORST LW. Why?

3. There's a reason for this....all knowing LW, would you happen to know why?







on Oct 10, 2006
KFC, is this a friend of yours


no, not a friend of mine. Not crazy about what was said either........ even to you LW. I'm not much for name calling. I think we need to stick to the subject matter and not attack each other.

hmmmmm....still waiting LW on the questions?

on Oct 11, 2006

yes, and I put that in the main body of my article. That helped tremendously. He sleeps in the crate at night still.

Crate training really only helps them if you use it consistently.  If you let them run around most of the time then stick them in one at night, it confuses them and worsens the problem.

Did you read what I wrote? The last time he went missing off the porch, I called everywhere and had to wait for a day when the lady called that had taken him in. That night before I stayed up until 4 am worried sick. I was exhausted for two days after that. Twice he ran away because of the thunder and both times he was taken in.

I guess you missed the point...If you didn't let your dog run, then it wouldn't go missing.  You wouldn't have him run away if he was properly constrained by either a leash or fence.  So, he's run away three time, he got covered in quills and sprayed by a skunk (while running free in the yard), and he got run over by a neighbor's car while chasing it.  Sorry, but I can't see how this is being a responsible pet owner.

I, too, have had pets all my life.  I've never had any run away, I've never had any skunked or quilled, and I definitely haven't had any run over by a car.  But, I guess maybe we just do things different here or something........

 

on Oct 11, 2006
If you let them run around most of the time then stick them in one at night, it confuses them and worsens the problem.


the main problem was at night because he's got separation anxiety. He'd probably be all right if I let him sleep with me but I don't want to do that. There is no way I'd put a dog in a crate all day and night. His crate brings him comfort at night when he mostly needs it. The best thing for a dog like this is routine. He is a thousand percent better than when we first got him. He's pretty well adjusted. He's still hyper dog, but no longer destructo dog unless his routine gets changed.

I guess you missed the point...If you didn't let your dog run, then it wouldn't go missing.


we live in the country. On the end of a dead end with no neighbors but one. He's run away twice in six years and both times was because of a thunderstorm. This is not uncommon so says the vet, the animal control officer and the shelter. He was on a screen porch with the door shut for one of those times. He forced the door open actually destroying it in the process. That was my point. If he gets scared, he goes bonkers. This was one of those times. It's part of his makeup. Had I known a storm was coming I would have had him more secure. I never leave him loose when I'm not home.

The first thing he does is look for me. The second thing is he looks for my neighbor. If we're not around like those two times, he runs to find us. There was a third time. We were home but he heard the distant thunder before we did. When we called him we found out he ran to the neighbors and ran down into her bulkhead. That's what he does. He doesn't leave home very easily. In fact there's been times, my husband would wish he'd run away......he really loves this dog but he's work as I've said.

The porcupine and skunk (also happened once each) would be hard not to run into. We live in the country surrounded by deer, moose and many other creatures. I look out my window, maybe once or twice a week and see a deer. I've even seen a fox here and there. Right now we have turkeys galore all over the place. It's the country for goodness sake.

For six years he's chased the neighbor when she gets home. For six years he's been happy to see her. She drives slow. This one time he slipped on the ice. That and he's getting older. It was an accident. Accidents happen. Yes, I suppose this would not have happened had I kept him chained all the time. He's so much happier sitting on my porch in the sun then being chained up. I see no point in keeping a dog chained in the environment we live in. Done this for 25 years and never had a problem until we got this dog...and that was the point of the story. He's a bit different. He's a big type A personality.

But, I guess maybe we just do things different here or something........


if you keep your dog chained up all day or in a crate, I'll bet dollars to donuts I've got a much happier dog.



on Oct 13, 2006

if you keep your dog chained up all day or in a crate, I'll bet dollars to donuts I've got a much happier dog.

They make these wonderful inventions called fences.  They keep what you want in and what you don't out.

I, too, live in the country.  But I don't let my dogs run, even when I'm home.  There are too many "creatures" for them to get in contact with. 

on Oct 14, 2006
still waiting for my questions to be answered LW. It can't be the cat has your tongue. You're in full throttle again, I see.

Good first line, how long did it take you to think that up?

oh, and by the way, I don't know of one dog that has lived in this town that has been killed or maimed by a car in the last nine years we've been here.

You've totally missed the whole point of the story. Com'on LW, have you EVER said one nice thing to me? Ever?

sorry, I know you're not much into answering questions.



on Oct 15, 2006
really? Am I missing something? Like what? Or is this just a way of not answering? Hmmmm?

ooops sorry again. Sooooo many questions. I don't want you to stress or anything.

on Oct 16, 2006
I have to second what Karma says here. I've had dogs ever since I can remember, and in my entire life have had only one run away.


On the few times when our dog has broken his chain, he'll wander off, but he's never gone for more than an hour or so. Since he is a sexually mature male, I'd say that his short travels are pretty much his nature.

KFC, seriously, though, I'm going to suggest that you put your differences with LW aside for a moment. If there's one thing she knows well, it's animal husbandry. I, too, have been around animals my entire life, and know them pretty well, and I find LW's knowledge of animal care FAR superior to mine.

If your dog has these behaviours, they are there for a reason. If you can address the core issues behind his behaviour, you will find that not only do you have a healthier and happier dog, but that you will be happier yourselves because you don't need to constantly worry about the dog.

That's just my two cents, though. And at two cents, you probably overpaid.
on Oct 16, 2006
Shall we try the "Whore of Babylon" question one more time, then?

Do you or do you not believe the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon referred to in Revelations?


oh, so you want me to answer YOUR questions but YOU do not have to? You have already made it clear here on JU that I DO believe the CC is the Whore of Babylon. Where did I say that? I never did. I would dare say that was a slanderous statement made by you.

I can't change that, but I'll still call it as it is, neglect borne of sheer ignorance and laziness on your part.


well my poor neglected puppy dog who is now 7 years old is quite content sitting on my porch soaking up the October sun. Give it a rest LW.

I, too, have been around animals my entire life, and know them pretty well, and I find LW's knowledge of animal care FAR superior to mine.


and that could be, who knows? You may be right but I too have always had a dog around the house.I cannot even think of a time when we have not, and none have been like Quincy. I also have two very close friends that are into dog breeding. They see nothing wrong here with how we're treating Quincy. They love Quincy to death. The both times he ran away was very unexpected. The first time I was actually in VA. The second time he was on a "secured screen porch." Or so we thought. Both times could not have been anticipated nor stopped. I think even a fence would have turned him into a bloody mess.

Let me tell you why.

Twice, in his locked crate with two metal hooks, he got out in the middle of the night. Blood everywhere. He punctured his paws in the process. Both times involved a bad lightening storm. He somehow managed after much work to bend and lift those metal hooks using his paws. We were dumbfounded. We figured out that if we kept the light on during the storm he calmed down. So for the rest of the summer we would leave the light on while he was crated if a storm was expected. No problem. The second time happened a few weeks ago. We never have storms like this in the fall. This time we woke up to his panting outside our bedroom door. Again, he got out and this time did serious damage to the cage. We fixed the cage for the night, cleaned up the blood and put him back to bed with the light on. No problem. He's been fine ever since.

Many other people would have brought him back. He is work. Nothing lazy about us here LW. I blame his first owners for this and it all happened in his first year of life. Now, he's very contented and happy unless either his routine gets messed up or a storm comes our way. He has many anxieties but can be very normal if his routine stays normal. So that's what I try my best to do, and it seems to work.

on Oct 18, 2006
Of course you've never come right out and said it, KFC, it's not your style to be that direct. You have, however, intimated it many times, and repeatedly displayed anti-Catholic bigotry on these forums, so it's a logical conclusion to come to.


well this shows your ignorance LW. I've been very direct in all that I've written. I've got two very good friends that are Catholic. I also have had more than one of them come to my defense on JU more than once. I am an ex-Catholic, sure, but I'm no bigot. But then I don't expect you to believe that because you are bigoted against me anyhow. In this case, it's not even "it takes one to know one" sort of thing. I have more in common with the Catholics than I do you.

But I'm glad you admitted this. Because on another site you've come right out and accused me that I believed in the CC as the whore of Babylon when I've never said any such thing. So does that make you a liar? Or is it a slanderer? I never really called you on it, but since you brought it up again.

What I find the most telling is your refusal to deny it. You've never done that, either. Even now, you refuse to deny that this is your belief, you simply deny ever having stated it plainly.


No, I haven't and the reason is it's theology that is just too deep to get into right now. There's much more to it being just a yes or no answer. If you read the text you are referring to, you'd see there is TWO Babylons. One is religious and one is political. Since many here don't even GET the basics why would I go into something that is pretty deep to delve into?

I have an idea. Why don't you write on this yourself? You seem to be very interested in this. Why do you want me to anyway? You don't believe a word I say so it's not like you're hanging onto my every word now.

Besides after reading your critical opinion of me time and time again, why in the world would I placate you to begin with? No matter what I say, you twist it and turn it and roast me on the fire.

So, I'll ask you again, didn't your mother teach you better manners?





on Oct 18, 2006
Just as an aside KFC, I am Catholic (as you know), and while you have questioned me deeply and intently about my beliefs and the teachings of the church, I have not detected any bigotry on your part. I have detected a very strong conviction to your own beliefs, but then I would not expect less.
on Oct 18, 2006
I have not detected any bigotry on your part. I have detected a very strong conviction to your own beliefs, but then I would not expect less.


Thanks Doc, and I would add you to my list of Catholic friends.

It's really not about religion anyways. It's all about relationship. When we all stand before our maker, our earthly churches will no longer be a factor.



on Oct 18, 2006
"All that and still no straight answer.

Lolololol."

I thought she gave a very direct answer. It seems your own bigotry has turned you into a blind fool, LW. Enlightened us; what exactly is your purpose here on KFCs thread? You appear to have quite the infatuation. Are you dissatisfied with your own life to such an extent that you feel compelled to rip at others to find contentment? Given your latest blog, "Real JU Gossip", I would be inclined to think so. If this is the case, you should know you are wasting your time. You claim to be so honest, yet I see nothing unpretentious or respectable about you. Certainly a 40 year old woman could find more appropriate things to do with her time, than berating strangers on an online forum regarding topics she rather obviously cares very little about.. Perhaps you would be better suited elsewhere, among others of your infantile larkishness. Your irreverence is not impressive.
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