Published on September 19, 2006 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Blogging
I've been on the phone for two weeks trying to help a young 22 year old girl get away from her parents. Now that sounds strange I know but the whole thing was quite bizarre. It shouldn't be like this.

It all started when she decided she wanted to move 7 hours away to live in the vicinity of her boyfriend. They had been separated for more than a year while he went to school in another state. He had already offered to help her find roommates and a job before she even got there. They were not going to live together but just be together. She, in fact, was thinking of transferring from one store to another in this new location keeping the same employment.

The problem started when her parents read her emails. Yes, they read HER emails. They saw the discussion between the two and voiced their objections. It seems as tho they expected this young man to offer his intentions to her before she made such a move. His school obligations were such he could not make such a committment at this time. The parents previously really liked him, but now the tables had turned for some unknown reason other than the fact their daughter wanted to make this move.

So the first tactic was to run the boyfriend down constantly. They made comments that if he cared he would voice his intentions and made several references to the fact he really didn't treat her right. They made untrue assumptions about him they had no idea of. When that didn't seem to sway her they went into her ability to care for herself. She, up to this point, had not been very responsible in many ways, but mostly because the parents had not allowed her to be. They paid all her bills, gave her a car (which they took back-more later) and basically surpressed her in many different situations. So they came up with a plan that she could move out but only in the nearby area giving her choices they thought would work for all. Again, she wouldn't budge and proceded to make plans to move out on the following Sunday.

Before that happened, they told her she could not have the car. They were still making all the payments and insurance payments on it and they reniged on their promise to let her have it. So now she was stuck. no car. In the meantime she was working at the same place her mother was. Her mother went to work at this same place after her daughter did maybe to keep tabs on her? Anyhow she couldn't give her notice without her mom seeing she wasn't on the next schedule. She couldn't see a way to get a rental 45 minutes away without them finding out either. So she felt stuck and depressed. She quit her job anyway still thinking of somehow getting to her boyfriend. In the meantime her mom was laying the guilt on heavily apologizing for giving her such a rotten home.

After a week or so of arguing back and forth, the parents seem to relent. They said she could have the car but she would have to pay $600 a month for the payments plus insurance which was very unreasonable. This was nothing but another tactic. So she thought she'd take the offer, get out, and come back before the month was up with her boyfriend and give them back the car. But before she could even do that, they played the guilt card big time. Last Sunday before she could leave, all her relatives showed up, her grandparents, uncles and aunts. They all cried and gave her numerous reasons why she couldn't leave and how she'd be leaving the family. For what? A boyfriend who doesn't love her enough to propose?

Now she was in a grand funk. She stopped taking calls from the boyfriend. She shut off and just stewed for a few days trying to decide what she really wanted and how to go about it. In the meantime the boyfriend was thinking this is it. She either needs to make this break or they would be done. He always wanted it to be her decision trying for the most part only to help her if this is what she really wanted. In the beginning he actually discouraged her from coming out because he was very busy in his schooling. He didn't feel he had time to really be with her like he would like and tried to get her to live on her own near her parents. But as this all started to play out, he dug his heels in and felt she needed to get out of this stifling situation at home and actually get away from them for her own sanity. She said she felt like she was suffocating.

She started to plan again. She washed and packed all her clothes while they were at work. She packed one suitcase in the trunk of her car. She did not want to so disrespect her parents by leaving on bad terms so she waited for the timing to be right. When I heard this, I knew the mom would check the trunk. She did. She blew up, cried and went into bizarre behavior unseen up until this point by her daughter. The mom left messages on the boyfriend's phone demanding a call back and said that if anything happened to their daughter he would be responsbile.

The Dad came home and saw the determination in his daughter. Sort of resigned he said she could take the car but she had to get new tires, an alignment and an oil change (a stall tactic?). This girl was not usually motivated to do such things so maybe they figured she wouldn't do it. She called her boyfriend. He advised her to go ahead and do it to make them happy but after finding out how much this was going to be they decided she should drive the car to a rental place instead and leave her parent's car there. She did just that. Only she got so excited she locked her keys in the car. So she had to call a locksmith and pay an extra $50 because she didn't want to hear anything from her parents about her lack of responsibility and give them more ammunition.

So she drove home in the new rental car. The look of shocked surprise on her parents faces was priceless I'm told. They knew then they were beat. She played the trump card and won. Her dad relented, her mom cried and this young lady felt free for the first time in her life. Her mom and dad left to get their car at the airport. After they left, her dad called and requested that if she left before they got home to leave a note to let them know. She packed her rental and waited for them to return to show them all the love and respect she could under the circumstances and got into the car at 7:30 Saturday night headed for freedom.

On the way she called her boyfriend and said, "I'm feeling pretty proud of myself." This is the happiest she's been in a long, long time. Her new life beckons and she's ready and willing to see what awaits her and her boyfriend as they figure out together what the future holds for both of them.






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on Sep 19, 2006
Let me guess...the boyfriend is your son?
on Sep 19, 2006
I cant help but be reminded of your post on my Blog.  About being caretakers of our children.  I hope these parents learn quickly that lesson.
on Sep 20, 2006
Some eagles just don't get that there comes a time when it is their duty to push the eaglets from the nest, not tie them to the bottom and sit on them as if they were still eggs.
on Sep 20, 2006
Sheesh pushy parents! It sounds like she had a really hard time with them manipulating her all the time.

It cannot have been easy for her to leave though, it sounds like she does love them (wanting to show the respect and all. There will probably be a lot of hurt feelings for some time.

I hope it all works out for her.
on Sep 20, 2006
I cant help but be reminded of your post on my Blog.


ya, that's what got me started actually. I was thinking of this when I read your blog about the other parents.

not tie them to the bottom and sit on them as if they were still eggs.


EXACTLY. That's the thing. The momma eagle's job is to start ruffling her feathers making things a bit uncomfortable in the nest until she finally just pushes them out. That's how it's supposed to be. But she's there with her eagle eye to swoop down and bring them back up only to try it again until they finally get it and it's not a long process either.

Sheesh pushy parents!


Actually the parents are really nice people. But when it comes to their kids they just have lost all common sense. This girl has a brother who is or should be in college but he's living a Jr High life playing video games and hanging out with his friends. He quit college and basically hangs around the house. Easy going parents are not doing their kids a favor. Tough love is a great motivating tool that needs to be utilized at times.

There will probably be a lot of hurt feelings for some time.


I think so to some extent and it's a shame cuz it really didn't have to be like this.

the boyfriend is your son?


why, does it matter? It's not germaine to the story either way.



on Sep 20, 2006
I was thinking of this when I read your blog about the other parents.


I wish every town had a parent like you. I guess the wisest ones are those that know what they know not, and have been there. The rest are just pontificators.
on Sep 20, 2006
why, does it matter? It's not germaine to the story either way.


Actually it does. This story is presented from a perspective, yours. When you tell a story about random people that you observe and don't interact with, you can do it without judgemnt or emotion.

It's obvious this girl is someone special to you.
on Sep 20, 2006
Some eagles just don't get that there comes a time when it is their duty to push the eaglets from the nest, not tie them to the bottom and sit on them as if they were still eggs.


So true. My mom opened the door, said fly, I was gone. We quickly found out whether I had a good foundation for independence. For me it worked well. Basically I'm agree. Some parents seem to tie the others don't push. Both are wrong.
on Sep 20, 2006
KFC,

You are right to be concerned. The more parents control their children from something the higher chance they will have of doing what they are told not to. The damage parents do in such circumstances they won't be able to comprehend. Just my thoughts.

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on Sep 20, 2006
When you tell a story about random people that you observe and don't interact with, you can do it without judgemnt or emotion


oh no, this is not a random situation but one I was personally involved in sort of. My phone was ringing with the updates as this all played out. I only put in the highlights. It was actually more like a month long process.

I have lots of stories along this line as I coach HS cross country and have done so for nine years. I also know alot of teens thru church as well even discipling one that is a senior this year and another that I counsel somewhat as she's going thru a difficult time with her parent as well.

It's obvious this girl is someone special to you


I actually like both the girl and her parents. They are all very nice people. They just needed to let go and let her fly on her own. It was time.

on Sep 20, 2006

I can see how I wouldn't want my daughter to go to another town and become dependent on a boyfriend.  Using the eagle story, if she's in another city, how will I be there to swoop in and catch her when she's falling?  I honestly would have a problem with my daughter chasing after a man who is not engaged to her.  Lets face it, if this guy dumps her, she's in trouble.  Strange town, alienated family.  Bad for her all round.

When I was in the AF lots of women followed the men I worked with around the world.  A guy would date a gal, not commit, then move to another base.  Then that gal would follow him.  Sometimes it worked, most times it didn't.  And she was left in a strange place with no one if he decided to move on.

So yeah, I'd be worried about my daughter.  And I'd question any man who wanted her to break away from the safety of her family to come "live by him."  Engagements can last a long time, certainly until he finished school.  He wants her to uproot her life and take a chance on him, and he's not even promised her marriage with an engagement?  I don't like that....she risks everything, he risks nothing.  In my mind, he is not honoring or protecting her...things I would want my daughter's boyfriend to do instinctually.

If he isn't ready to be engaged, then she shouldn't be moving out to be with him imho.  She is committing and he is not.  That is never a good thing. 

On the other hand, I know what its like to be 19 and on my own and in love with a man I'd follow to the ends of the earth.  Luckily, he never made me wait. heh.  And I didn't have any parents to caution me anyway.

It's sticky.  But I don't think its always easy for parents to let go.  Yeah, we know we have to do it.  But under less than desirable circumstances, well, who knows.

That's my two cents.

on Sep 20, 2006
I can see how I wouldn't want my daughter to go to another town and become dependent on a boyfriend.


I actually thought about this...trying to put myself in their shoes. A few things to think about.

1. She's 22, not 18.

2. This boy was well known to the family even sleeping many times at their home over a three year period. They trusted and liked him and treated him as a member of the family.

3. This is a long time committed relationship, not a spur of the moment thing. They seem to be equally committed.

4. She was dependent on them anyhow. But the boyfriend wants her to be independent before he marries her. He feels she should live a bit on her own first, be responsible for herself and not be totally dependent on him or her parents. Of course he's around to help but not as much as her parents were. Basically he wants her to grow up.

5 She's only 7 hrs away from home. It's a straight shot to boot. Many kids go at least that far to college. Not a biggie here.

6. And he initially discouraged this months ago when it first came up so there is no question that he wasn't dragging her away. He has not promised her marriage because he feels both are not ready for this....and there's nothing to uproot really. She had nothing holding her back but her parents. No job, no house, no rent, no kids, not pets.

Good Grief if it was me.......I'd go in a heartbeat. To be young and in love with nothing holding you back...why not? Safety would be a concern as a parent and a biggie for me but that doesn't seem to be an issue here. The location is a good safe environment.

I heard an update tonight. She's very happy and is so glad she made the move. She's still kicking her heels up and hasn't come down yet. She's looking for a job already having had an interview in the field she was going to college for.





on Sep 21, 2006
Wednesday morning at five o'clock as the day begins.
Silently closing her bedroom door.
Leaving the note that she hoped would say more,
She goes downstairs to the kitchen clutching her hankerchief.
Quietly turning the backdoor key...Stepping outside she is free.

She (We gave her most of our lives)
is leaving (Sacrificed most of our lives)
home (We gave her everything money could buy)

She's leaving home after living alone for so many years.

Father snores as his wife gets into her dressing gown.
Picks up the letter that's lying there
Standing alone at the top of the stair
She breaks down and cries to her husband
Daddy our baby's gone.
Why would she treat us so thoughtlessly? How could she do this to me?

She (We never thought of ourselves)
is leaving (Never a thought for ourselves)
home (We struggled hard all our lives to get by)

She's leaving home after living alone for so many years.

Friday morning at nine o'clock she is far away,
Waiting to keep the appointment she made.
Meeting a man from the motor trade.

She (What did we do that was wrong?)
is having (We didn't know it was wrong)
fun

Fun is the one thing that money can't buy.

Something inside that was always denied for so many years.

She's leaving home.
Bye, bye


she's leaving home lyrics by mccartney & lennon
on Sep 21, 2006
why, does it matter? It's not germaine to the story either way.


I disagree, KFC. I think it's highly relevant, because it has impact on how you view the situation (i.e. objective observer, vs. concerned parent of the other party in this relationship).

I agree, at 22, she should be able to make decisions for herself, but as the father of four girls, I would be HIGHLY concerned if one of them was moving to Austin to be with a boyfriend. I don't think it's wise, and, while I wouldn't implement the same measures of control as these parents implemented (mainly, because I would want my girls to know I was there if there were problems), I would certainly do everything I could to know they were safe. There are a number of variables about this scenario that we as the readers don't know.

Just a friendly bit of advice: if it IS your son, I don't know if getting in the middle would be the best idea. It might create friction down the road.
on Sep 21, 2006
1. She's 22, not 18.


And that's so old and mature . . . let's face it, us kids these days are not emotionally maturing as soon as they used to back in the olden days . . .

There are a number of variables about this scenario that we as the readers don't know.


Amen, Gid. I don't know what to think about this whole thing. I think Whip's "never mind" pretty much summed it up for me (and I can just imagine the retort that was originally there ) . . .
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