If I were to fake the resurrection
Published on February 18, 2006 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Religion
Years ago well known author and speaker Josh McDowell set about to try and debunk Christianity. He figured he'd investigate the resurrection by examining the evidence and poke holes into what he believed to be a lie.

He said "as much as I hated to, I had to admit that if I had been some first century propagandist trying to fake the resurrection of Jesus Christ, I would have done a number of things differently."

He said.......If I were to fake the resurrection...........

"I would wait a prudent period after the events before "publishing" my account."

It's well known and accepted that the followers of Christ began preaching the news of his resurrection soon ater the event itself. Peter's well known first sermon was exactly 50 days after the resurrection(Acts 2).

"I would publish my account far from the venue where it supposedly happened BR>
One amazing fact is that Christianity originated in the very city which Jesus was crucified. This did not happen in some distant city far away from eyewitness accounts. No. Christianity began in the very city where he was publicly crucified and in the very presence of his enemies.

"I would select my "witnesses" very carefully. "

Names would not have been used or at least avoided at all cost. But when you look at the account at least 16 names were mentioned including two prominent men, Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea. This Joseph, a rich man and a member of the Sanhedrin, would have been well known. His involvement could have been easily refuted or confirmed by those living at the time these gospels were written.

"Perhaps most important I would avoid citing disruputable witnesses, which makes significant the record of Jesus' first appearances to women since in that time and culture woman were considered invalid witnesses in a court of law."

If this resurrection was indeed fabricated, women would have had no part in any way as witnesses last of all the first witnesses as recorded in the gospels. Even the men it says in scripture did not believe their account and thought they spoke fables.

"I would surround the event with impressive supernatural displays and omens.".

Jewish Scholar Pinchas Lapide said...."We do not read in the first testimonies of an apocalypic spectacle, exorbitant sensations or of the transforming impact of a cosmic event....According to all New Testament reports, no human eye saw the resurrection itself, no human being was present, and none of the disciples asserted to have apprehended, let alone understood its manner and nature. How easy it would have been for them or their immediate successors to supplement this scandalous hole in the concatenation of events by fanciful embellishments! But precisly because none of the evangelists dared to "improve upon" or embellish this unseen resurrection, the total picture of the gospels also gains in trustworthliness."

"I would painstakingly correlate my account with others I knew, embellishing the legend only where I could be confident of not being contradicted."

Many critics have pointed out the apparent contradictions in the gospel accounts. Had they been without their differences one may think collusion instead. Instead what we are left with are 4 different but complimentary eyewitness accounts.

"I would portray myself and any co-conspirators sympathetically, even heroically."

The gospel accounts instead offer unflattering pictures of the disciples. Peter and Thomas especially the leaders of the New Church denied and doubted their Lord they followed for more than three years. We also see many skeptical responses by these same men.

"I would disguise the location of the tomb or spectacularly destroy it in my account."

If a legend is to be perpetuated the tomb would be kept a secret in case the body were to be discovered. But remember the Gospel named the owner of the tomb, the same rich Joseph of Arimathea and its location.

"I would try to squelch inquiry or investigation. "

Paul speaks of the 500 witnesses who were there at the time, many of which were still alive, and he basically said "If you do not believe me, you can ask them." 1 Cor 15. If this were fake anyone trying to substantiate these claims would have been stopped.


"I would not preach a message of repentance in light of the Resurrection."


"No one in his right mind would have chosen to create a fictional message that would invite opposition and persecution from both civil and religious authorities of those days. How much easier and wiser it would have been to preach a less controversial gospel-concentrating on Jesus' teachings about love, perhaps thus saving myself and the adherents of my new religion a lot of trouble."

"I would stop short of dying for my lie."

While some will live for a lie, not many will die for one. All the disciples that had earlier fled for their lives pre crucifixion with the exception of John were martyred for preaching a resurrected Christ. If they were not absolutely certain, would they have allowed themselves to be tortured for this belief?

Real or Fake? You decide.

"To whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them 40 days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God. Acts 1:3.""

Comments
on Feb 19, 2006
This is important only if you believe in the sacrificial process. Blood was owed, blood was paid.

You tend to lean on the "If God is all powerful, why would he..." arguments. My question would be, why didn't God start with a system like this to begin with? Why did they need to spend thousands of years sacrificing animals when God could just send Himself/His son down and get the job done in one fell swoop.

The implication in the Bible always seems to be that God did x, the Hebrews did y, and because after all that time they never got it right God finally decided on z. Can cause and effect really explain it when God, being omnipotent, knew all along what was going to happen?

To me, the concept of sacrifice is difficult. I try to imagine a perfect being demanding blood sacrifice, delighting in the smell of burning animals, and I don't have much luck envisioning it. I'm no PETA representitive, not in the least, but I wonder what the benefit of such would be to an all-powerful God.
on Feb 19, 2006
"My question would be, why didn't God start with a system like this to begin with? Why did they need to spend thousands of years sacrificing animals when God could just send Himself/His son down and get the job done in one fell swoop."

From the get go the sacrifice was a covering for sin. The people were obligated to bring in a perfect offering as a substitute for themselves. These substitutes looked forward to the ultimate sacrifice which would be the lamb of God...Jesus. He would be our ultimate substitue. If you're familar with the yearly Day of Atonement then you'll remember that the blood was sprinkled on the mercy seat in the tabernacle. Underneath the mercy seat was Aaron's Rod, the jar of manna and the the tablets of the 10 commandments. These things represented man. God hovered over the mercy seat when this shed blood was sprinkled, therefore the blood on the mercy seat was between God and what represented man. This is all a picture of Christ. He is our mercy seat. He's the mediator between man and God. The whole OT was a picture of Christ.

The whole thing was done in the name of Love. God made us to have free will. We chose freely to sin and therefore rebelled against Him our creator. He chose to create us with freewill because he wants our love to be given freely to Him. These OT sacrifices were to point to what he was willing to do for us. They pointed to the one that would come and take our place as our substitute. So ultimately the answer to yur questions is Love. He knew before he even created us that this atonement would be necesssary. Right in Gen 3;15 we see reference to the cross right there in the Garden. Provision was already made.

The bible says we love him because he loved us first. He stepped out on a limb for us. He died on that limb for us. He wants us to know that He loves us so much that he was willing to die for us. No greater love than that one would die for another.

Blood represents the esseence of life as it carries life sustaining elements to all parts of the body. Since it contains life, blood is sacred to God. Shed blood from a substitute atones for or covers the sinner who is allowed to live. That's what Christ did. He covered us symbolically with his blood. So when God looks at us in judgment, he sees us thru the blood of Christ by our acceptance for what he did for us. But for those that don't, it says in Revelation that he will judge them on their works. The problem is we can't work enough or be good enough. They will be uncovered in God's presence, that is they will be naked.

Contrast this to the Satanic cults. They drink the blood. This is directly opposite of what God says to do. He says do not drink blood as it is sacred to me.

The delight in the smell? That was the obedience that God approved of. He doesn't delight in death but in obedience of his people.

"To me, the concept of sacrifice is difficult"

I agree, it should be. It is to me also. It was meant to be. Too bad we had need for this to be done, but just as Adam represented all mankind in sin, Jesus too represents mankind to rescue us from death as a result of Adam's sin.

on Mar 09, 2006
To answer the question: depends upon the depth one takes in the literalness of text. Others find the text symbolic and let it go at that, but by no means discard its validity as art.
on Mar 09, 2006
mcdowell seems to have missed the point entirely (as have you).

if i truly believe in the resurrection, i would waste no one's time attempting to prove the unbelievable with facts rather than faith.
on Mar 09, 2006
mcdowell seems to have missed the point entirely (as have you).

if i truly believe in the resurrection, i would waste no one's time attempting to prove the unbelievable with facts rather than faith.

(hmmmmm on your blog site, there are only 4 comments and the one above this one doesn't exist. don't take it on faith tho. please just delete the empty one)
on Mar 09, 2006
if i truly believe in the resurrection, i would waste no one's time attempting to prove the unbelievable with facts rather than faith.


well I don't consider it a waste of time talking about it that's for sure... I don't ever think it's a waste of time to tell others the truth no matter what that truth may be.

And people want the facts.....at least they say they do. My faith is built on evidence; they go hand in hand in my estimation.

In the resurrection there are many proofs. I look at the eyewittness evidence, the coroboratiing evidence, the changed lives before and after the resurrection. Those closest to him fled and left him, afraid they too might meet the same fate. Days later they were empowered and confident in the face of death. What changed them?

Many will live for a lie, but none will die for one.

I have a suspicion that if you believed in the resurrection, you would do no less than I.