Or is that..beware of gun owners?
Published on July 24, 2010 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events

I remember hearing a story similar to the one I heard on the news the night before last and I was just as horrified then as now.  Here's the latest one:

A woman in our area was asked random questions from her pediatrician per usual.  She hesitated over one question, thinking it was none of their business and didn't feel comfortable answering it.   The question concerned owning firearms.  She was asked if they had them in the home.  She said there were no questions concerning knives, swimming pools, loose electrical cords etc that also pose a hazard to young children.  So why ask about guns?   What does that question have to do with anything? 

She was  then given discharge papers giving her 30 days to find another pediatrician.  Her kids were being discharged from his care effective immediately.  She knew it was because she didn't answer that one question.  I remember this happening a few years ago concerning someone I knew.  Only they asked the young pre-teen if her parents had guns in the house and the parents were outraged. 

The news reported that the American Pediatric Association does push doctors to question parents about owning guns and they also recommend that doctors influence parents to get rid of any firearms in the home. 

Yesterday it was reported on the news that two 2 year olds were near death as a result of a backyard swimming pool and an unattentive parent.  One of the toddlers has since died and the other is on life support.  This is like the third or fourth time I've heard of toddler deaths involving backyard pools in just a couple of months.   

So why not question that?  Most parents do have their guns locked away in a safe place.  You can't do that with a pool as easily. 

The other thing that I find interesting is the fact there is nothing this lady can do.  She can't go after the doctor for discrimination or anything or force him to take her children as patients. There is no law against it.   I happen to agree with that although I would have to question the whole hippocratic oath thing and wonder why he's even in the profession in the first place. 

The reason I find all this interesting is the fact that I wrote about a similar case only it had to do with a gay couple. Wishing to be married they went to a Christian photographer who refused their business on religious grounds.  The photographer believed that marriage between two men was against the laws of God.  The photographer was fined by the court thousands of dollars for discrimination even though she claimed religious reasons for not taking the gay couple's business. 

While I agree that the doctor should have the right to choose who to treat and not to treat (may his conscience be his guide) I also agree along the same vein that this Christian photographer should have the right to also pick and choose which clients she will work with. 

Why is ok here but not there?   Am I missing something?  Where is the equal justice under the law?  It certainly looks like some do have special rights and some don't. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Comments (Page 1)
on Jul 24, 2010

Sounds like a doctor that is pushing his/her social views, or using it as an excuse to not take on new patients. Appears to be a lawsuit in the making.

on Jul 25, 2010

Exactly 

You would think but according to the news they're saying she has no recourse but to find another doctor.  He wasn't breaking any laws, therefore the doctor isn't going to be held responsible for his decision.  Kind of reminds me of the other doctor near us (urologist)  who posted a notice on his door advising patients that if they were in agreement with Obama's Healthcare Program they would be advised to seek out another doctor.   

So it's coming from both sides here.  Don't ever remember hearing about such things in the past before.  Either people are just getting more into politics or they're just plain fed up unlike any other time before.

 

 

on Jul 26, 2010

While I definitely do not agree with the doctor, I will defend his stupid decision.  The difference between myself and a liberal is that the liberal will not allow you to make stupid (or intelligent) choices.  They take that right away from you and make you only make choices that they condone.  The doctor is well within his rights to see only the patients that he desires.  Just as you have every right to associate with only those people you want to.

It is a stupid decision, but for now, a legal one.  That is changing. As more and more government is preventing us from making choices for the good of the state.  Da Comrade.

The way to get back at the doctor is to expose his views and prejudices and then let the pocketbook of society decide his employment.  Some will go to him just because of his policy (and you can bet that criminals will note who does).  Many will not.

on Jul 26, 2010

It was a stupid decision.  Goes to show you can have all the money and all the education in the world and still NOT have class. 

 

 

on Jul 26, 2010

US Gun Statistics
Various Sources
2-2-5

 
(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
( Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
 
(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept. of Health Human Services)
 
Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
Yes, that is 80 million.
 
( The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188.
 
Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."
 
FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.
 
Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!
 
Out of concern for the public at large, I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.

on Jul 26, 2010

 

She was then given discharge papers giving her 30 days to find another pediatrician. Her kids were being discharged from his care effective immediately. She knew it was because she didn't answer that one question.

Am I missing something?

 

Maybe there is something that explains this in the 2,700 page Obamacare bill that was just passed! you know the one that Pelosi said had to be passed so we would know what's in it?

 

That aside, I can relate to this somewhat.

After we moved to Florida, although we stayed with the same health insurance company,  we needed to get a new policy which required a visit from their nurse who put us through a lengthy questionairre with several questions pertaining to gun ownership.

 

 

 

 

on Jul 26, 2010

H8Ful here's your stats in a bit more user friendly format.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Seems one is twice as vulnerable of choking on a piece of food as getting killed by a firearm. Perhaps we need to put a three day waiting period on all foods other than apple sauce and pudding? Now onto that deadly killer... the bath tub!

on Jul 26, 2010

(and you can bet that criminals will note who does).

DG that's a good point, how easy for a criminal to follow these folks home knowing they might be unarmed.  No guarantee they are just not lying to the doctor, but just one more piece of social engineering, by a thief willing to do a little homework, when casing a place to rob.

on Jul 26, 2010

Out of concern for the public at large, I have withheld the statistics on lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.

thanks for thinking of us!    LOL  Going from doctors to lawyers (or vice versa) is stuff nightmares are made of

Nitro:

ya, just like I thought..drownings are more of a problem than guns.  And why don't they ask about potential household hazards like cleaning supplies that causes poisoning or medications laying around the house?  And we know that EVERYONE practically owns a car and look at the amount of deaths caused by vehicle crashes.   Yet I don't ever hear the question being asked..."do you own a car? If so, what make and model?" 

Obviously a certain agenda is first and foremost on their minds..that's why.  

on Jul 26, 2010

The question remains what does gun ownership have to do with general medicine or acquiring health insurance?

on Jul 26, 2010

lulapilgrim
The question remains what does gun ownership have to do with general medicine or acquiring health insurance?

Well I guess one could only hope their neighborhood burglar used the same doctor, and is unarmed.

on Jul 27, 2010

No guarantee they are just not lying to the doctor, but just one more piece of social engineering, by a thief willing to do a little homework, when casing a place to rob.

True - but then why lie?  A doctor knows your most intimate life.  So you want one you can be honest with.  Perhaps some will lie, but the greater odds is they will not.  And the criminals know it.  Picking a house at random gives you about a 50% chance (over all in the US) of finding an armed homeowner.  I bet the number of gun owners of this doctor is a whole lot lower!  Criminals may be stupid, but they are not insane.

on Jul 27, 2010

Nitro Cruiser


H8Ful here's your stats in a bit more user friendly format.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Seems one is twice as vulnerable of choking on a piece of food as getting killed by a firearm. Perhaps we need to put a three day waiting period on all foods other than apple sauce and pudding? Now onto that deadly killer... the bath tub!

We can see how making it mandatory to have car insurance has made things safer for drivers.  I can see clearly now (the rain has gone) as to how everyone having health insurance will make us all healther.  Next question, how often do you see Ronald McDonald? Would you like fries with this (Doc, you and I would automatically say yes to this question before hearing the rest of the question ......prostate examine? If your heart was being operated on, would you like to supersize that procedure?

Who are they more concerned about getting guns citizens or criminals?  It seems they're more concerned about citizens getting guns.

They should be focusing their efforts on the black market (is it PC to say that?) not this bandaid non-sense. What is the PC word for black market? Government?

on Jul 27, 2010

(Doc, you and I would automatically say yes to this question before hearing the rest of the question .

Eh - not for now.  My Cholesterol is doing good, but the treatment I am on (Niacin) is causing my blood sugar to go up (just a bit now), so doctor's orders - no carbs!

on Jul 27, 2010

I bet the number of gun owners of this doctor is a whole lot lower!

hmmm maybe the criminal should hit the doctor's house some dark night?  Wouldn't it be interesting if the doctor brandishes a gun or not? 

Then after hitting the doctor's house he could (after getting a patient list) go house to house and visit all the doctor's patients. 

 

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