As I have told you before, I mean what I say, and say what I mean - not what you want me to mean.  Clearly you have learned nothing and are still the infant that can't write, notate, or read.

My articles are all on line (Joeuser did not lose any) and I admitted my failure at attribution the one time before (even to a little-whip clone like yourself).  But I did not belabor the point once I saw the over sight and corrected it. (You never did correct your lies and errors).  So your puny attempt at misdirection will only get you a rasberry, not a point.  I guess Joe Biden is still your hero too.  But then you have never had the intelligence god gave an earthworm.

My aren't we weaseling now!  Let me guess, you are an aerobics instructor in your spare time?  You must be to contort that much.

For the uneducate (as is the author of the my quote above - kingbee, 3-19-2010), that was a joke.  Do you know the origin of all the jokes you tell (let me guess, you have no sense of humor, no intelligence to get humor, so therefore you tell none)?  I dare say that yes, I have told many a joke around the office waterfountain that I never knew the source of, never gave an attribution, but then never claimed to be mine (just as those telling me their jokes did not say where they got them from).

But for such a sad sack as yourself, I can see why you would want to ruin every joke by requiring someone to do a massive research into who created the original joke.  After all, you can't tell when someone is laughing at you (for sure no one is laughing with you since you have no sense of humor).  Such a shame that you live in such a small bitter malevolent world.  But that is of your own making.

So to repeat a cliche' (and if you want attribution OR notation, you can bing it yourself): Sit on it Potsy.

now, why would you say that?  Have I been proven to be dishonest before?  Anything you'd like to share with the group?  Go ahead.  Let me assure you.  I did NOT add that later.  It was there the whole time.  I never went in to edit this piece after I sent it along.   You made one accusation and when I called you on it you just kept going; looking for more.   

exactly.  I hear a good story, or a joke and I pass it along.  Quite often I say "from a friend" or "I'm not sure who wrote this" but think it worthy to pass it along.  I also provide links when I have them especially when it come to news articles.  I'm obviously not the type to try and impress anyone with my viewpoint so why would you think I'd take stuff like this and pass it along as my own?  If I were going to do that, I think I'd pick something a bit more heady;  not jokes and trivial matters. 

What is this all about KB?  Why the animosity?  What's the real problem here?  Is it because the truth is hitting too close to your belief system?  Is it because you're a liberal and you know I'm not? 

i invite you--the man who claimed martin luther king was betrayed by obama's election after previously misquoting barry goldwater as having said "extremism in pursuit of virtue is no vice (following up each of those two bizarre fantasies by absolutely refusing to admit his own foolishness)--to prove that statement. 

one of my dad's favorite jokes involved an defendant on trial for alleged acts of bestiality who was being excoriated by a prosecutor who informed the jury, "ladies and gentlemen, this man was seen having sex with a horse.  and if that wasn't bad enough, he slept with a cow!  good people, i can barely bring myself to inform you this man engaged in sexual congress with chickens!"--at which point the accused leapt into the air and screamed with outraged disbelief "chickens???"

(for the record, my dad always credited by name whenever possible the person from whom he heard a joke whether that person was a professional or someone he'd run into on the street; my childhood friends, my brother and i were all inspired to do the same thing and still do it ourselves.)

condemn me for just about anything and you won't be far from wrong, with one exception: no sense of humor. 

i've more than adequately demonstrated my ability to be and perceive funny in my time at ju.  my sense of humor has, on more than one occasion, made the difference between earning and keeping a position and, for a period of about 8 years, i supported myself very well putting my sense of humor on paper. 

can either of you say the same?

it has nothing whatsoever to do with liberal or not (glad you didn't use conservative because neither you nor guy are conservatives as much as reactionaries, but that's a whole other story). 

what it's all about is responsible and ethical journalism. 

you may not think of yourselves as journalists but that is, in fact, what you are by virtue of what you do--or claim to do--here.

you are keeping a public journal as am i and everyone else who posts here.

as such you owe it to yourself and your readers to do more than simply copy and paste another's work and, if you can't take a few moments to try to locate the source of something 'sent by a friend', you're helping to facilitate one of the most destructive forces facing our beseiged republic: the dumbing down of america.   

keep it up and there'll come a day when someone--most likely, but not necessarily outta stupidity--will post the gettysburg address as 'something sent to me by a friend' or 'the real truth according to ____________  (insert "kardashians", "karl rove", "ryan seacrest" or "george carlin".

I'll keep that in mind Kingbee! 

Why?  Selective memory?  And if yuo want proof, just look at the above statement,  I never said his election was a betrayal.  So there is a lie.  And I never miwquoted Goldwater, so that is lie #2.  And I did not even have to search your previous rantings to find your lies.  LIAR

No, you have just demonstrated your pettiness.  What a lame story.  Oh and how noble your dad was!  yea, right.  That was your dad and you are not your dad.  But I am sure Robin Williams has a lot to fear from you.

And you still do not have any sense of humor.  But then you never did.

Well, fortunately since you are ignorant of what even you are, I do not take offense for you not knowing what a conservative is, or a reactionary for that matter.  Junior Douglas has no fear of you either and your plagarizing him.

yeah...musta been that other dr guy who posted this:

Politics Makes Strange Bedfellows

So does International relations

A prominent republican politican once said "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice".  He was soundly trashed for that statement.  But if we expand on that just a bit, we could also hear him say: Extermism in the pursuit of virtue is no vice.

as i pointed out then, despite what you think you might have heard or might hear, these are the words barry goldwater actually spoke during his 1964 message to those who'd just nominated him as the republican candidate for president: 

I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

your misrepresentation of the concept which inspired goldwater's words might be mildly amusing as a malaprop if you were able to bring yourself to admit it as such. 

it would also make an excellent and accurate slogan for the saudi arabian mutaween (committee for propogation of virtue and prevention of vice), their iranian counterparts and the taliban--groups who do exactly as you (not barry) advocate.

I would invite all to read the full thread (not just the taken out of context part that kb did) and see I did not lie, he just lied for the 3rd time on this thread!  Here is the URL: https://forums.joeuser.com/58391

IN it I clearly had in quotations the part Goldwater stated. and then added my own part to make a point (which he never addressed - he never does - he just lies and lies and lies).

I would also remind kb that his beef seems to be with not attributing things to people and here he is not attributing either.  The comments clearly state the truth so much so that kb ran and hid.  And is still hiding.

He is a liar! Pure and simple.  See why I do not have to search kb?  The bolding is his lie.  The words are mine as I clearly stated (note the lack of quotation marks kb).  Just a small humorless liar.  WHo does not know how to attribute, notate, document or laugh.  Or form original coherant thoughts.

Gotcha kb.  Again.  That makes what, 72-0 now?

I have only found this posting now.

But I have seen KFC post lots of these things "sent by a friend" before and it would surprise me if she hadn't said so in the first paragraph because she usually does. Why on earth would she lie about that?

Oh, and while we are at it: accusing someone of plagiarism and passing off somebody else's work as their own is quite different from accusing someone of neglecting to attribute a text quoted to the correct person. As for possible copyright violations, it is up to the original author to determine that and given the spirit in which that text was written it seems likely to me that permission to post it in Web fora is implied.

there's another issue you're overlooking--copying and pasting the entirety of another's work rather than excerpting a portion to support a point or as the basis of commentary (which is permissable under us copyright law). 

there is no such thing as implied permission to reprint.  an author may choose not to defend or neglect asserting ownership rights but posting something on the web most certainly does not automatically dump it into public domain. while it's certainly true that anyone concerned about maintaining control over their intellectual property must exert effort to defend his or her right, it's equally true that those whose friends send them all manner of clever things must exert an effort to locate the source if they plan to benefit from usage. 

there's also a difference between someone who finds an unattended item of value and immediately assumes ownership and another who makes a diligent attempt to locate its owner.   the latter is a person of ethics.

i have no idea why anyone would lie about anything.  

dr guy seems intent on instituting himself as the arbiter of truth & human lie detector so perhaps you could put the question to him?

 here's exactly what i wrote at the time--after pointing out two similar posts without any such qualifier.

i probably shoulda qualified that further:  it certainly wouldn't surprise me if she (or anyone else) were to have done so. 

anyone who would be surprised by another's deception is riding for a huge fall.

i copied the entire first paraph without alteration. 

anyone who revisits the intellectual trainwreck for which you so kindly provided a link (ain't bad enuff you inflicted it on us the first time i guess) is in for quite the trip; hopefully they'll return unscathed.   in any event, they'll be able to determine which of us has a problem with facts.  i addressed every bit of nonsense you trotted out. 

i really shouldn't take any joy in this, but dammit, it's gonna be more than a bit amusing knowing some of your fawning admirers are about to discover why you give even a severely flawed batch of douchebags such a bad name.

how else to explain why you began by blaming goldwater for "extremism in pursuit of virtue is no vice" only to contradict yourself and the entire concept by warning 'extremism in pursuit of virtue IS a vice"?

I meant specifically in this situation? What would she have gained? The text is not that brilliant and I, for example, wouldn't even want to be seen as its author.

As I said before, I have seen her post such stories she was emailed before. It was clear to me that she did not attempt to pass it off as her own.

Not everyone pays so much attention to copyrights. For many a Web forum is a natural extension of the real world where they would be likely to show friends a newspaper article or make copies of a fax they were sent.

Posting an article to them represents the digital equivalent of showing people an article in a newspaper, not the digital equivalent of printing copies of the newspaper.

In fact it is both.

I don't know what type of people you know, but I usually fare quite well with assuming that I am not being deceived.