We Need To Put Out The Fire, Not Add To It
Published on November 2, 2009 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events

My home state of Maine is once again going to the polls tomorrow to vote on yet another homosexual issue.  This time it's on whether or not homosexual marriage should be legalized.  So far every state that puts this to a vote brings another loss to the homosexual movement.  Not one state to date has had an affirmation by popular vote for homosexual marriage.    

I know we hear and get caught up in some very emotional reasons as to why we should allow this but we really need to take a good look at what's going on in our culture when it comes to marriage and how it's affecting our children already. 

Marriage is under attack.  There was a time when going to the altar was a sacred committment that meant something.  Until death due us part.  Remember that?   There was a time when a man and a woman were united as one, raised a family and sat back to enjoy the fruits of their labor in the benefits we call grandchildren.  We still see some old dinosaurs out there who are still hanging on trying to keep the traditional home fires burning in a controlled sort of way, but it's getting to be a thing of the past more and more.  We have now abandoned the home fires which are now burning out of control. 

What has happened to all that?  Where did we go wrong?  Is it  religion being taken out of our culture bit by bit?  The invention of the pill leading up to a sexual revolution starting back in the 60's?  Women working outside the home leaving husband and children to fend for themselves much of the time?   Entertainment?  Computers? 

Heterosexuals haven't done such a great job in the marriage business these last 30 or 40 years but legalizing homosexual marriage isn't the answer.  Marriage is on fire, and legalizing homosexual marriage is like adding gasoline to a blaze already burning out of control. 

We are seeing the evidence of this in our kids.  They are hurting.  They have been burnt and are now suffering the consequences of marriages gone aflame.  If you listen carefully you can actually hear the dull roar of the fire as it quickly spreads.  This roar is angry, loud and invasive. 

Look around.  Have you not noticed the anger in our culture especially the younger generation?  It's all making sense.  What do we need to do to put this fire out?  Anger manifests itself in many ways.  Anger acts out. 

Let me tell you what I saw yesterday.  I saw seven hurting (last week there were 12) teenagers in Sunday School.  Not one comes from a traditional homelife.  Every single one of them is missing at least one parent in their lives.  The common denominator is anger and frustration. 

There's nothing like a big batch of homemade cookes to get a bunch of teens to warm up to you.  Within moments we started to hear their heart wrenching stories.  Some I've already posted on an earlier blog. 

Our topic on this morning was anger.  We taught them how we should be slow to speak, quick to hear and slow to anger.  Doing so will alleviate many troubles in their lives and will save them from dire consequences.  They were all too eager to share their problems with us about their emotional abusive step-fathers or in the case of one girl, a brother-in-law  married to her sister who was raising her. 

Where are the real biological parents?  Why so many broken marriages?   In the case of this girl, her sister is 22 years older than her and no talk of any mother or father in the picture.  I'm guessing without this sister and her husband this 14 year old would be in foster care.  She's a beautiful young 14 year old girl. 

One boy has so much anger he has a court date next week to address it.  He's now 18, follows me around showing me his notebook on how he's trying to change his life.  I had the feeling he needs mothering.  His father has been married at least 3 times and has two younger kids with his third wife who doesn't seem to be in the picture now. 

Another boy I'll call JU sat in a back corner with his hat on backwards hardly looking at us.  He wouldn't pick up the book, read along with us or share in the conversation.  While I still know nothing about JU we got a report back this morning that immediately after Sunday School he pulled out of church a man he knew and wanted to talk about his anger issues.  The older man said to my husband "I don't know what you taught about in class yesterday but it sure made an impression on JU.  Enough to pull me out of church to talk to him for over a half hour." 

Every child needs a mom and a dad.  For a child to feel safe and secure he needs both of his parents to stay strong and committed not only to him but to each other.  The best way a father can show a son about love is to show it for his wife.  The best way a daughter can learn about how a woman should love and respect her husband is by watching her mother.   What kinds of models do these kids have? 

We seem so worried about the deficit and how it will affect our next generation but what about the trail of broken marriages leaving angry and displaced kids all over the place? 

We need to go back and try to fix what's broken not add another dimension to an already troubled institution. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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on Nov 04, 2009

Without parental permission, Kindergarten kids are given books that depict homosexuality as normal,natural, even good. ONe of them brought it home and his parents raised a furor with the school over it.

The schools are trying to teach the kids tolerance. Something your religion apparantely can't do.

on Nov 04, 2009

Without parental permission, Kindergarten kids are given books that depict homosexuality as normal,natural, even good. One of them brought it home and his parents raised a furor with the school over it. 

Why would they need parental permission for that? Homosexuality is normal and natural and there is nothing good or bad about it outside the context of specific religions. I am sure the schools teach that certain religions condemn homosexuality. I assume they also teach that other religions permit, condone, or even encourage it. That's what schools are supposed to do.

 

The schools are trying to teach the kids tolerance. Something your religion apparantely can't do.

I'd fear a school in which Lula's views on Judaism, Islam, and Israel are taught!

Personally, I don't care care if my children learn in school that homosexuality is good, bad, or strawberry-flavoured according to Lula's Christianity. It's not my religion anyway, so why would it be important that those views be taught in school? They should teach my religion's views, not hers. (Careful! That statement is a trap!)

In today's connected world, tolerance is a much more important value than any specific religion's teachings.

Lula will just have to learn that not everbody in the world is a Christian of her type (or a Muslim fundamentalist, a tribe who have similar views as she).

 

on Nov 04, 2009

Infidel, are you capable of being part of this kind of discussion without spewing hate all over us?  

on Nov 04, 2009

Praise Almighty God....and blessings and thanks to Maine voters......once again they voted to uphold traditional marriage.

 

on Nov 04, 2009

Homosexuality is normal and natural and there is nothing good or bad about it outside the context of specific religions.

Everyone has their own idea of what is normal and ones position doesn't necessarily invalidate another's. Homosexuality might occur naturally in the wild, so do two-headed cows. So speaking  from a biological stand-point it is an animally. Just because something can occur doesn't mean everyone needs to accept it as normal. Pedophilia occurs (from the large number of reported cases, it doesn't appear to be isolated) among the population, should that make it acceptable? Some would say yes, possibly some that wouldn't engage in the practice themselves.

It seems everyone wants to jump on religion as the anti-gay scapegoat. Yet it amazes me to no end, that some the same folks will gravitate to sketchy science such as "climate change" (get the weekly weather right, then I might consider) while ignoring simple biology. I think emotion is trumping fact. People that are disabled want to be treated as normal (nothing wrong with that), The same could be said for gays. The only difference is that given a choice few people would want to be disabled if they had a chance.  If gays didn't have anything invested in their life style would they choose to be as they were biologically intended to be? Science may one day be able to detect and correct this anomaly in the future. How many of those people would grow up and say thank goodness I didn't have to go through all that? Some people would be outraged at the very idea, yet might support it if it could eliminate pedophilia. Mercy or meddling? Boils down to ones personal beliefs.

I'm not suggesting gays be treated differently, they are people. I'm not suggesting people with disabilities be treated differently, they are people. In fact I abhor special treatment. But is it wrong to look at a person and acknowledge they have a condition that beyond the confines of what is considered normal? So IMO a condition can be natural, but that hardly makes it normal. If gays could reproduce and their offspring were gay, that would be normal. IMO it's an anomaly (no offense implied). Now maybe you have or know or are a person with this condition. It's natural to be sympathetic and supportive. Just don't tell me the sky being red is normal, because you've convinced yourself it is, and I'll let you live in the comfort of your belief.

on Nov 04, 2009

The schools are trying to teach the kids tolerance. Something your religion apparantely can't do.

You seem to be under the impression that it's the schools responsibility to do that. I'm sure you also think the Gov't should make all decisions for us too. You can call it what you want but as a parent it is my right to teach my child what I believe is right, it's not the Gov'ts job to determine what I should teach my child. For that matter we should just throw freedom out the window.

I always wonder why do some people think the Gov't is somehow better at chosing for us, a system composed of people just like the rest of us. It's not as if working for the Gov't requires some kind of special breed.

Marriage, like all things (except for some people's brains), evolves.

Evolution is usually for the better, this is not evolution this is de evolution.

Another stupid, irrational fear of people who are different from the usual group of bigots.

Another stupid, irrational stereotyping, ignorant comment.

LOL, last I checked everything we fear is usually different. When was the last time you were afraid of someone that was like you? What a genius this guy is.

on Nov 04, 2009

So speaking  from a biological stand-point it is an animally.

 

Actually, biologically...what we term as homosexuality, is actually prevalent in the animal kingdom, history, and has been shown by scientific studies is highly likely biological/innate. Go look it up.

 

~AJ

on Nov 04, 2009

Infidel, are you capable of being part of this kind of discussion without spewing hate all over us?

I think of Infidel as a hit and run.  I have yet to see him offer anything of substance.   

Homosexuality is normal and natural

I don't think there's anything normal or natural about homosexuality.  It's abnormal and unnatural not only in my opinion but just looking at it from a logical standpoint.  It's just not normal or natural in any shape or form. 

Praise Almighty God....and blessings and thanks to Maine voters......once again they voted to uphold traditional marriage.

yes and this should be a very loud wake up call because Maine is VERY liberal and if any state would have been on board for homosexual marriage it would have been Maine.  I'm even surprised at this outcome. 

I think emotion is trumping fact

yes, exactly.  You put your hand on the button here with this statement Nitro.  We have abandoned common logical sense and instead are getting caught up in emotion which has a tendency to take us down the wrong road.  Our emotions cannot be trusted to make sane decisions. 

Actually, biologically...what we term as homosexuality, is actually prevalent in the animal kingdom, history, and has been shown by scientific studies is highly likely biological/innate. Go look it up.

no it's not.  If you take male mice and put them together they WILL have sex with each other but that doesn't make it NORMAL!  As soon as you put females in the mix, the mice abandon the males they were turning to and instead have sex with the females.  Every single time. 

The men in prison do it too.  Why is that?  Is it because they are homosexual or is it to relieve basic sexual tension? 

on Nov 04, 2009

 

 

yes and this should be a very loud wake up call because Maine is VERY liberal and if any state would have been on board for homosexual marriage it would have been Maine.  I'm even surprised at this outcome.

 

Over all I'm not surprised because of what I've heard and read about the No on 1 campaign and how some of its supporters campaigned; it seems like some were too hardline. Hopefully this will get overturned and/or deemed unconstitutional. 

 

It's abnormal and unnatural not only in my opinion but just looking at it from a logical standpoint.

 

“Pure logic is the ruin of the spirit.” ~Antonie de Saint-Exupery

 

Oddly enough KFC, logically....The Bible doesn't add up, so does that make it normal? Or for that matter, how about miracles, angels, and so on so forth>

 

 

 

no it's not.  If you take male mice and put them together they WILL have sex with each other but that doesn't make it NORMAL!  As soon as you put females in the mix, the mice abandon the males they were turning to and instead have sex with the females.  Every single time.

KFC, if it isn't normal (occurs naturally, within "norm" of species without influence, etc.) - then what do you call it when it happens in hundreds of species in the animal kingdom? I highly doubt there are some LGBTQ agenda czars running around forcing this 'poor defenseless animals' to do their bidding, to push their agenda.

Obviously something drives them innately to mate with the same gender, and remember, animals have no conscious - they cannot make choices. So they're not deciding to engage in sex with the same gender, they're not being forced, they're essentially driven by instinct. 

An instinct, KFC, is NOT learned. 

If that drive really is instinctual as it's come across - even if that instinct is merely to reproduce or be sexually active (or whatever) - the fact is, animals naturally show those signs; they do it. (No pun intended)

It's not about whether what they do is right or wrong, because right and wrong have no place in the animal kingdom. Right and wrong is pretty much a human concept. 

To head you off, because I can think of a few things you might say:

Yes, these are animals; however, as you have claimed that I cannot use animals as a basis to argue FOR homosexuality because they are animals, different, and are not human and so on -- neither can you. You claim that animals engaging in what appears to be homosexuality isn't right. Fine, that's YOUR opinion. You base it on the fact that there is a difference between the the two. Okay. But then you can't argue your claim, because there's a difference. Your words, "there is a difference," which implies that the rules that govern us, do not necessarily govern animals. 

We humans are driven by more than instinct - we're driven by logic, reason, passion, et al. Animals? Pretty much instinct. 

I'm curious: If God designed everything, then why did he infuse such an instinct into one of his creatures?

 

~AJ

 

 

Btw, you took the studies waaaaay out of context. I remember them correctly, the males went to the females only a few times. 

on Nov 04, 2009

Satan did it. Easy as pie that answer. 

on Nov 04, 2009

Satan did it. Easy as pie that answer.

 

Well of course, the proof is in the Devil Frog, and having to clean up after your pets! Bloody satanic things, why can't they act like humans?

 

 

~AJ

on Nov 04, 2009

Actually, biologically...what we term as homosexuality, is actually prevalent in the animal kingdom, history, and has been shown by scientific studies is highly likely biological/innate. Go look it up.

Never implied it doesn't occur (twist any meaning you like into it). However, if in a biological sense being gay was normal we would all be gay (and nearly extinct) and heterosexuals would be the anomaly. You can dream though.

on Nov 04, 2009

AJ do you always get this irritated when a large group disagrees with your philosophy? Yet somehow there is that underlying desire to believe, "because I think so, it must be right". I read you new blog and it says an awful lot about you (you do realize you can make an article that no one can post a comment on, that or you only seek condolence from those with similar views). I didn't post there, because I hate to see a grown man cry or have a fit, but surely you must realize you can't have your way all the time? And that makes neither you or the the people you rail against right or wrong.

on Nov 04, 2009

Never implied it doesn't occur (twist any meaning you like into it). However, if in a biological sense being gay was normal we would all be gay (and nearly extinct) and heterosexuals would be the anomaly. You can dream though.

 

First off, I want to address something. I went and read about it and talked to a few professors as well. Your argument using Pedohpillia is ridiculously fallacious. The reason is that, setting aside individual sense of normalcy, it is a mental disorder/illness and IS NOT normal. It has been clearly show to be an irregularity in normal over all development. Even if you add in personal sense of normalcy, science still shows that it isn't normal for humans; biologically, there is something wrong. To the best of my knowledge and that of the professors - homosexuality, has not been shown to be like that.

Apples and oranges man, sorry. 

 

Secondly, your comment. 

No, wrong. Just because something is the way it is, doesn't imply that it is irregular. Simply because both things are biological in nature (no pun intended), that doesn't mean that it would wind up like that. 

Example: Crime is normal in our society - does that mean that we all commit crime? 

 

 

 

 

 

on Nov 04, 2009

AJ do you always get this irritated when a large group disagrees with your philosophy? Yet somehow there is that underlying desire to believe, "because I think so, it must be right". I read you new blog and it says an awful lot about you (you do realize you can make an article that no one can post a comment on, that or you only seek condolence from those with similar views). I didn't post there, because I hate to see a grown man cry or have a fit, but surely you must realize you can't have your way all the time? And that makes neither you or the the people you rail against right or wrong.

Yes I do know, but why hide behind that? First, you already have your opinion about me and likely won't change it. Second, by making it private i'm implying that I just might fear the responses to my rant. I believe in what I believe in, and I'm going to stand by it. I'm not gonna hide it, or hide behind it. You know?

 

I get irritated when people are being discriminated against, there is bigotry, ignorance, hate, abusice democracy, oppressive democracy, manipulation, bible thumping/beating, etc. The entire issue is not about me, it's never been about me. It's been about others who are trying to live their lives. They don't want people screwing them over; they don't mean any ill will toward anyone (even the anti-ssm people)...yet, they're being subjugated to these actions. Sorry, but that's wrong. 

Again, it's not about ME. It's about them, and fighting for what is right and for others. 

 

What you call crying or a fit is often passion, irritation, shock, etc. depending on the topic/case/scenario. 

When it comes to our nation, and what the founding documents say - it's clear and concise: life, liberty, equality (etc.). 

 

~AJ

 

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