Added Fuel To The Fire
Published on July 23, 2009 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events

So what do you think about the Cambridge fiasco? Was this way overblown or what?  How about Obama's reaction?  Did you think his comments last night were divisive?   Should he have commented at all?  Some say he made a huge blunder in his getting involved, especially since he didn't have all the facts. 

By now everyone's heard the story about Professor Gates who was arrested for disorderly conduct and resisting an officer who was called to the scene of an alleged break in of a house in an upper middle class neighborhood. 

Is this a case of racial discrimination?   Reverse racial discrimination?  Pride? 

Well I guess it depends on who you speak to. 

This morning in our bible study we talked about racial prejudices.  Only, in this case, it had to do with the Samaritans and the Jews.  Most people know the story of the Good Samaritan and how he did something very noble in caring for his down and out, left for dead, Jewish enemy. 

Many don't know the intense hatred they had for one another.  The Jews hated the Samaritans because they were half breeds.  While held in captivity the Northern tribe of Jews married Assyrians so their offspring were half Jew and half Assyrian so they developed the name Samaritans because of where they came from. Samaria was the capitol of the area that this all took place.  The other Jews, who came from the Southern Tribe and exiled into another area, managed to stay pure and thus began the great racial hatred between these two groups. 

So today we studied Jesus' interaction with a Samaritan woman at the well in her city.  The Jews would go to great lengths to avoid Samaria even if that meant taking a longer trip which they gladly did to stay clean.  They felt even walking near to the city of Samaria they would be defiled.  So great was their hatred.  But Jesus, a Jew, on his way to Cana took the most obvious and short route; straight thru Samaria.  What was he thinking? 

Jesus, the great peacemaker that he is, shattered all barriers.  Not only did he have a lengthy conversation with a woman, which was unheard of in His day, but she was a Samaritan outcast as well.  She was a woman of ill repute living with a man after having five husbands.   He asked her for a drink of water.  To drink from her utensils would certainly be taboo.  A Jewish man asking a woman of ill repute, and a Samaritan to boot,  for water?  Was he crazy?

By the time Jesus was done with Samaria and the Jews, they reconciled through him.  The last thing Jesus said before he left was to preach his word throughout the world, Jerusalem, Judah, and Samaria. 

President Obama would do well to learn a lesson about racial descrimination from Jesus.  Martin Luther King got it.  He understood.  President Reagan got it.   It's about shattering those barriers, not putting them back up. 

I'm afraid Obama's statement did more to stir the pot than to bring healing to a racially charged incident. 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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on Jul 26, 2009

President Obama, like his pastor and the KKK, belong to a group of people the world has tried to leave behind for over a century: people who believe that black and white are fundamentally different.

It doesn't matter whether one believes that whites are the superior race or that blacks are. The error lies already in assuming that they are different, that there is a "one" that could be better than the "other".

We haven't had a US president of that mindset for some time until the election of Barack Obama. It will take time for all those people to have died out.

In the mean time we can just accept that the President believes that white and black are different and that conclusions can be drawn from skin colour, ignore whatever the idiot has to say on the subject, and hope that he is not equally ignorant and bigoted when it comes to other subjects.

When I first knew of Obama's pastor it was clear to me that I wouldn't have voted for Obama. But for some reason the number of Americans who either don't care about racism or are in favour of it in some form was too large. This is one change I was hoping I would never see, having grown up in a time when racism was already on its way out in polite society.

If Obama had used his racism only while trying to get votes, I would have thought he was an opportunist. But if he continues this as elected President, I'm afraid he probably really does believe the crap.

 

on Jul 26, 2009

Obama went as far as he could.  I applaud his effort although I do think he was out of bounds enough in his initial statement to apologize fully. 

He can (but shouldn't) say whatever stupid thing he wants.

But I have a problem with the mindset that made him believe, without knowing any details, that it MUST have been the white guy who acted stupidly.

He should replace his mindset, not just watch his words. I don't think the American public really wanted a racist bigot as President so he should better try not to be one.

(Gee, Obama's most vocal supporters called George Bush a racist. But what the heck did George Bush ever do or say that indicated in any way that he even recognised a difference between "races"?)

 

on Jul 26, 2009

in which parallel universe did that occur and how long did it last?

no evidence of anything at all similar happening on this planet.

No evidence?  Are you sure?   In Acts 8:4-25 you'll see this later reconciliation I was referring to.  Here's just two scriptures, the first and the last from that account by Luke:

"Now when the Apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John"  v14

"And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans."  v25

These Jews who once wouldn't be caught dead talking to a Samaritan are now fellowshipping with them in the name of Christ. 

I can't tell you how long it lasted.  I don't know that. 

on Jul 26, 2009

But I have a problem with the mindset that made him believe, without knowing any details, that it MUST have been the white guy who acted stupidly.

That's what I saw as well.  I thought he was way too quick on the draw and the mistake was obvous almost from the moment it dripped from his mouth. 

I'm just glad he did fess up.  I also hope he learns a lesson in all this.  

I also don't like to read any news reports that kind of gloss this all over by saying there was mistakes on both sides.  So far, it looks like the cop went by the book.  Gates way over reacted immediately by the looks of things. 

on Jul 26, 2009

this would be the same president reagan who launched his 1980 campaign with a speech in the very same mississippi county in which three civil rights workers were killed by the klan in 1964 proclaiming his full support for 'state's rights'--codespeak understood very well by his audience to mean a return to mississippi apartheid policies--and a promise to help return control of mississippi's schools to segregationists and white supremecists?

Yup, Mississippi's no better than pre-Mandela South Africa.

on Jul 26, 2009

Yup, Mississippi's no better than pre-Mandela South Africa.

pre-mandela south africa was just that until mandela was released, just as mississippi in 1980--when reagan made that speech--is different from mississippi 2009

before you invest too much credence in any politician's vanity website, you might wanna catch freeman morgan's hbo documentary (i think the title is "mississippi prom").  old hatreds die hard, a number of locations and communities have a long, enduring and dismayingly recent history of politicians pandering to racists as an election strategy. pretending things are all girlscoutcookiecalenderish instead of the way they really are is dangerously naive.

on Jul 26, 2009

I can't tell you how long it lasted. I don't know that.

the samaritans are, at this moment, very rapidly about to disappear into the past.   it's a race between them and a few remnant original nation populations in amazonia.

on Jul 26, 2009

Well, it was either codespeak or it wasn't.

Hover you mouse over my link in #20.

on Jul 26, 2009

He can (but shouldn't) say whatever stupid thing he wants.

as can you (as the reply from which this statement was quoted proves so well).

with the mindset that made him believe, without knowing any details, that it MUST have been the white guy who acted stupidly.

1. obama is very familiar with professor gates (as are more than a few people who don't live in cambridge).

2. professor gates was returning from a trip and had luggage with him.  how many older middle-age burglars carry luggage when capering?

3. gimme an example of a white acedemic of professor gates' stature who's had a similar experience  

4. the call that set this whole thing in motion was made by one of gates' neighbors--a white woman. i don't know how long either has lived on that block but i can tell you that ware street is one block long.   i live in the capital city of neighborly ignorance (i live in one 12 unit building for over 15 years and there were only four other tenants with whom anything more than 'mornin' or 'nite' was ever exchanged) but cambridge ain't la so i'm not too sure how she'd managed never to see him previously.

on Jul 26, 2009

1. obama is very familiar with professor gates (as are more than a few people who don't live in cambridge).

2. professor gates was returning from a trip and had luggage with him. how many older middle-age burglars carry luggage when capering?

3. gimme an example of a white acedemic of professor gates' stature who's had a similar experience

4. the call that set this whole thing in motion was made by one of gates' neighbors--a white woman. i don't know how long either has lived on that block but i can tell you that ware street is one block long. i live in the capital city of neighborly ignorance (i live in one 12 unit building for over 15 years and there were only four other tenants with whom anything more than 'mornin' or 'nite' was ever exchanged) but cambridge ain't la so i'm not too sure how she'd managed never to see him previously.

What despicable, utter nonsense.

Lots of people were 'very familiar' with Officer Crowley, but they didn't have a nationally televised press conference at their disposal.

You've never heard of luggage being used to haul booty?

#3 is just too assinine a strawman, not to mention racist, to respond to.

The 'white woman' did what I would hope one of my neighbors would do if they thought a break-in was occurring at my home.

on Jul 26, 2009

 

i'm not too sure how she'd managed never to see him previously

I'm not sure either, how many times has Gates made a scene breaking into his own home?

on Jul 26, 2009

the samaritans are, at this moment, very rapidly about to disappear into the past. it's a race between them and a few remnant original nation populations in amazonia.

like you asked me for backup..now I'm asking you...do you have anything on this I can read.  I'm not aware of this. 

I commend the woman who called the police.  She honestly thought that somebody was breaking into this house.  She did the right thing.  Most people don't want to get involved these days.

I've heard nothing about luggage being an issue.  All I've heard from the reports was the men were wearing backpacks.  Nothing about luggage.  Even so, the luggage could have been in his car. 

 

on Jul 27, 2009

The 'white woman' did what I would hope one of my neighbors would do if they thought a break-in was occurring at my home.

She won't do it any more if you are black and so is the person she sees trying to force your door.

 

on Jul 27, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/27/gates.arrest/index.html

 

According to CNN, the caller never mentioned anything regarding race; that's good to know. I find myself further favoring her in this whole deal.

on Jul 27, 2009

According to all the news Lucas.  I heard the tapes in full on Fox.  She never mentioned race at all; only two men whose backs were to her from a distance.  Then after this all broke she was getting threats for being a racist when in fact there's absolutely no evidence of that. 

Makes that "white woman" comment from Gates show who the real racist really is doesn't it?  Total reversal going on here. 

I love it, and it doesn't happen often, when the truth immediately appears and sheds bright light on a particular subject. 

It's also interesting that the "white woman" isn't going to sue Gates for making a racist remark against her (and making her life hell for a few days)  like he was going to sue the "white" cop for being racist against him. 

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