Say it's not so!
Lula, I'm curious; pray tell....how long is a day to your God?
I question the authenticity of anything that is dated beyond 3500 BC. Why.....becasue it is done by radiocarbon dating which is not 100% unreliable and any conscientious scientists will admit this.
Actually, lula - setting aside your double negative that thereby implies that carbon dating IS in fact reliable - carbon dating was proven to be accurate by Willard Libby (U Chicago - 1949) through dating it, and then comparing the results to known historical records.
Source:
Arnold, J. R.; Libby, W. F. (1949). "Age Determinations by Radiocarbon Content: Checks with Samples of Known Age". Science 110 (2869): 678–680. doi:10.1126/science.110.2869.678. PMID 15407879. http://hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/fomenko/libby.htm.
~Alderic
God is Eternal and exists in a timeless state. But time for us, as He meant it is based upon Genesis and the literal meaning for yom ("day"). From the way that God worked His Creation and set the week as we know it, I'd say one day is 24 hours.
What's interesting, fascinating really....is this....to suppport the literal meaning for day we can cite the use by Jesus Christ, Creator and Savior. I think God chose Creation events of 24 hours each since these are time periods to which all humans can best relate.
In St.Mark 10: 6, Jesus indicated that He knew the creation and linked that to the beginning of human beings, He said, "But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female." Doesn't this read like a tautology?
Ooh for the double negative! My bad. Sometimes my fingers are in gear on the keyboard before my brain is!
Nah, Libby's radio carbon methods are no doubt workable but not 100% reliably accurate results. Why? becasue he and his associates proceeded on 2 faulty assumptions.
Namely, one....the way everything is now, so it always has been, and 2....no contaminating factor has previously disturbed any object tested with radiodating techniques.
The results of the samples are nice, but without regard to the immense uncertainities of HOW the past may have affected them. Libby's other problem is that actual recorded historical events only go back as far as the Sumerians to about 3500BC. There is just no getting around the actual facts. ANyone can claim something is 35,000 years old but can't actually prove it beyond doubt. Without historical records there is just no way to verify C-14.
Gotta love 'em. Of course, they can 'verify' everything in the Bible.
Daiwa, for shame. You know better than to get involved in this!! Always love to see your posts, however.
I do it for entertainment. It's kind of like watching the monkeys at the zoo. In fact (chuckle) it's EXACTLY like that. Literally.
History books. The founder of the empire was Hammurabi, who lived approxamtly 1000 years before your version of the dates. Look it up if you dare. They based their calander on a summurian one dating from 2000BC. Before your creation myth was written down.
The 7 day week is world wide because belivers in your god made everybody else follow it. As a world leading system it started when the romans used it.
If seven days is such a god given week why did all the other cultures use different ones?
I have the right answer about the 7 day week.
Who cares? Does it matter?
Uh oh...is some imagined God gonna punish me for not having the proper respect for why a bunch of apes chose 7 days for a week? I'd be shaking in my shoes if I were currently wearing any.
You're being humble when you say "sometimes."
Just a bit back on the subject...
Let me do the math. 21 incidents in 19 years. Ohh, gee...that's so disarming! You and Lula have disagreed about the "truth" more times than that in the last year, which means that at least one of you has been posting misinformation to the Internet. You have done so deliberately, both of you, because you refuse to admit that you do not and can not know the truth. Maybe if the scientific method was your guide, you could pare this down a bit. But will you? Nope. Your shortcut to knowledge, aka faith, is too strong. To admit you're wrong would destroy your entire world. Don't feel bad - millions of faithers have gone before you, and millions more are being brainwashed by ignorant parents every day. Your status is safe.
Actually, if an object can be historically proven to have been made in, say, 1345 BC - through verified and intact records...then carbon dating shows it to be, that sort of shows the veracity of the dating.
Mind you, they did take into account all sorts of irregularities, and as such they tried the same test for other objects. Guss what...the veracity was verified.
God is outside of time. He's not bound by time at all.
Lula and I agree to disagree on certain things and there is much we do agree on. We only have these strong debates when it comes to the authority of the RCC. Other than that, we get along quite hunky dory. And if you're squemish about blood, stay away. The articles are adult content and if you can't handle it......well you know.
carbon dating is good but it's not perfect. It can only date things accurately if the variables stay the same. If some catastophe happens it upsets the dating accuracy...like Mt. St Helens or say like the flood. Evey Scientist I've ever spoken with says the same but with a much more elaborate way than I can. I'm not a Scientist but I do know they don't put all their money behind this carbon 14 dating. It's a useful tool but only up to a point.
no, not at all. The Jews followed it for centuries way before the word Christian was even formed on anyone's lips.
well show me something that has been wrong. Everything that can be verified, places, events, dates, people etc have been verified by the experts even to the people who went on a search to disprove it to be. There have been some things thought to be in error but upon further research found to be quite true instead. Many have been converted in the process. There was one well known archeologist who researched the book of Acts for 30 years. He knew there were places, dates, names, and people in that book alone that he wished to research to verify if were true historically and thru archeology. So he went and spent many years following in the footsteps of Paul.
He went into this adventure an unbeliever and came out singing God's praises. He said the detail Luke put down was quite amazing. He was able to verify almost everything written down in that book alone. Luke being a doctor paid attention to every detail.