That is not all that surprising when considering that most presidents - so far as i've read - don't read the newspaper or watch the news; they tend to be a rather sheltered lot. It was the same way with Bush, and Clinton.

Guess what, we are arrogant. Sorry, that's blunt and not Politically Correct, but it's the truth. We're a powerful nation that has, admittedly, shown a great deal of arrogance. Save countries like Iran, North Korea, et al., why do you think that some of our close friends, so to speak, started disliking us?

Perhaps, but so was Bush, Clinton, etc. The same argument has been used for presidents for years.

~Alderic

BTW, my point in providing the adage was to point out, that while you can point the finger at Obama and his administration all you want, and die hard liberals can point all the fingers they have at Bush, but the fact is...neither of you groups are helping.

No more finger pointing, it's time for accountability and dialogue - not rhetoric and idealogues.

So just how do you propose scrutiny of the current administration without hurting someones feelings? Or are you suggesting there can be no criticism of the administration regardless and we should all just accept what ever happens? There was plenty of criticism of Bush policies during his term here, and rightly so. If Obama and congress are to be left off the hook, who should we hold responsible? We can blame America as seems to be currently in fashion with the majority, but that's a little to simplistic wouldn't you say? We could blame ourselves, but this is he age of little self responsibility as we all need the governments loving hand to guide us. Face it there was no love then, do you really expect it now?

By no finger pointing, I'm saying:

Sit down.

Shush up. (Due to KFC's request on language)

Hold on.

I'm not saying no criticism, but criticise where it is due. Please, please, don't become another party goat, walking in step or nodding your head like a manipulated bobble head doll. Use your head, and be willing to admit when someone does something right. (You = rhetorically). I'm sick and tired of hearing Hannity, Limbaugh, O Reilly, etc. as well as their liberal counterparts mindlessly bash. It's the same stuff we had with Bush.

Give ideas, push suggestions. Not rhetoric.

O Reilly often has positive words for the president (as recently as last night in fact), you just don't hear them in the liberal media. It sounds like you nailed the problem, unfortunately your own bias is part of it as well. Not your fault, everyone has them, first step is admitting it. Referring to one as a "party goat" or any other self-righteous indignation will solve nothing, especially since nobody here has an intimate knowledge of any other members philosophy, political or otherwise.

Each article posted on JU seems to be about a particular policy. You either agree or disagree with it. I haven't seen any article that state "it's bad because Rush Limbaugh says so". To allude to that sort of thinking is elitist in nature, and unfair. Many of the people you interact with on this site had plenty of criticism for the previous administration as well. Had you been here longer you would know this.

1. I actually did hear about it, and was pleased. 2. The goat comment was, as i stated, rhetorical. 3. I realize that, and know it isn't my fault. 4. It wasn't self-righteous indignation, it was being blunt and honest. 5. You were saying about self rightousness?

Again, my statements are rhetorical. It was not directed at any particular person; maybe I should start putting a disclaimer? Also, I have been here for a while. All in all, I've been here - if I remember correctly - since late 2005. So, almost 4 years.

(Holy Jesus?! I can't believe it really has been that long...)

~A