A child is the result of a pregnancy.






Besides providing contraceptives to girls as young as 11 years old, Planned Parenthood's main mission is to provide the means to kill(by abortion) that unborn child.

If you can't find fault with PP and what PP does, then how do you reconcile the Commandment of God, "thou shalt not kill" and Deuteronomy that says to choose life?

Plain and simple....the government spends millions of dollars promoting the "have safer sex" ideology in public schools....Without parental input or permission, officials hand out birth control pills, patches and condoms to kids who then assume they are expected to use them. Guess what AD? Protected sex really isn't. Why? Because, amongst other things, contraceptive, permissive sex-education ignores the most important sex organ: the brain.

Whereas, the idea behind abstinence education or of teaching chastity is somewhat radical...kids are actually given credit for using their minds and not their bodies. And what are handed out in these programs are respect and relationship building skills. What do teens want? They want us to help them with ways to resist sexual pressure. To sex, instead of being expected to say, "yes", kids actually want us adults to empower them to say "No".

Oy vey do you TRY to be a nudnick or does it just come naturally?

I was progressing backwards FROM the abortion. I equate pregnancy as an unborn child. I am NOT pro-abortion but realize abortion is the symptom not the cause.



I do not find fault in them as being the PROBLEM. Agreed they are not HELPING the issue but the blame doesn't solely belong to them.

On your second point. I do not know the hearts of the people. For all I know they could deep down believe that they are helping people but totally ignorant of what they are doing. They will be held accountable for their actions just like I will be for mine. Only out of arrogance could I even begin to think judgment or condemnation on them. So you see I don't have to reconcile it.

CB, would you mind expounding what you experienced in the abstinence only education?

Me too.

We certainly know permissive sex ed has been in place long enough to measure and across the board has brought dismal results.


My contention is that some, not sole, credit must be given to Abstinence only ed.

I think the connection between parental and family involvement and reduced teen pregnancies cannot be overlooked.

After the Gloucester fiasco, it seems more clear than ever that parents who give their job and duty of teaching sexuality over to schools are asking for a big let down.

Okay, so you have a problem judging Planned Parenthood.

I don't. It's not difficult to understand PP is in the business of killing unborn babies. I can't imagine anyone who works at PP is ignorant of that fact...rationalizing it as OK is an entirely different matter.

I think this is getting to the root.

I believe the root of society is the family and even more so the marriage.

I can criticize and show my disapproval of PP but I cannot judge the whole entity. That entity employs people.

Good for you that you can freely judge with good conscience. I just know I cannot.

Planned Parenthood is more than abortions.  Here's an interesting article from a medical student who worked at Planned Parenthood for this OB/Gyn rotation.

http://www.grahamazon.com/over/2007/10/planned-parenthood-aint-abortions/

and here is another link that shows the success of comprehensive sex ed

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/NEWS/PRESS/032608.htm

Locamama,

Ah, a link from Advocates for Youth....a group that pushes sex instruction programs and every chance they get...bashes the successes of abstinence until marriage education.

To their credit..the president of AFYouth acknowledged the fact that we've got an epidemic of venereal diseases. Problem is sex ed programs teach youngsters the use of birth control pills and condoms which do not prevent them from acquiring STDs.

What does works every time though ....is practicing chastity!

What do we know about the group known as Advocates for Youth?

We know that in 1998, they returned from a research trip in Europe where they studied the European sex education model.

That they actively promote the practices of homosexuality, bisexuality and transgenderism for teens and children.

That in 1999, they recommended the US through off our so called outdated and irrelevant restraints by adopting the following:

Beginning in Kindergarten children should be taught explicit information about sexual matters.

Adults should prepare kids for having sex rather than prevent them from having sex.

Adolescents should have access to pornography.

Sex ed and discussion about teen sexual activity should be value free and void of discussion about morality and virtue.

Condoms should be readily available and accessible in middle and high schools.

All abstinence until marriage education programs should be banned from public schools.

A national socialized medical system should pay for all abortion and contraceptive services.

The trip to Europe and Advocates for Youth's subsequent recommendations was due to the fact that in 1996 in Washington there started to be a sentiment for a return to modesty and abstinence only education was clamoring for some of Sex-ed federal funding from Title V. Planned Parenthood was livid about having to give up their monoply on federal funding for sex-ed.

In 2002, AFY teamed up with SIECUS, Planned Parenthood, the Centers for Disease Control, NARAL, People for the American Way, and PFLAG, to attack abstinence funding under Title V and reinvigorate the sexual revolution. They turned teaching Health information to teaching reproductive health information.

The mission and theme of the campaign centers around the 3 R's Rights, Respect, and Responsibility.

RIGHTS: Children have a right to reproductive health care. This means they have a right to abortion on demand.
RESPONSIBILITY: means that young people need to be taught that pleasure is a part of human development, children are sexual from birth, and "safe-sex" should be part of lessons K-12. Involves readily available contraception especially condoms distribution.
RESPECT: Respect is two fold. The adult world is to show respect for teens and children to self-determination, deciding what services they want, what information they want access to and when they are ready to have sex.
Also respect is for respecting and affirming homosexuality as normal. Lots of propaganda to do that.

The latest is from the NEA, where they are set to affirm teaching on homosexual "marriage".

Nice group? I'll let you all be the judge.

Now that you have this bit of info...go back and reread their link!

Of course, AD.

It's actually kind of ridiculous where I went to high school. In the EIGHTH grade, we are taught basic human anatomy, but not, of course, what sex actually is. We all just kind of figured it out on our own. We were also taught the controversy over abortion. That was it.

In high school, we had contracts to give to our parents that promise the parentals that our teacher would not mention contraceptives at all, or anything other than abstinence. It took ten minutes to go over basic anatomy again and for them to tell us not to bedunkadunk.

That was it. I pretty much tuned it all out because I had already chosen not to have premarital sex due to what my parents taught me and what I believe through my religion, but that's a discussion for another day.

High school sex-ed did absolutely nothing to affect my decision whether or not to have sex, and like I said, there were three pregnant girls in my high school when I graduated, and another girl I knew was engaged and four months pregnant.

In my experience, it didn't work out so well.

Thanks CB. Sounds like pretty much the same as what I got.