We Should Be Concerned
Published on June 12, 2008 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Current Events

 

Usually, when a journalist is censored in a Western nation, American news organizations respond with collective outrage. But as a major attack on press freedom unfolds in Canada, America's mainstream media are silent. Neither the TV networks nor the major newspapers have reported on hearings last week at what amounts to a Stalinesque show trial in Vancouver, British Columbia.

 

 Mark Steyn, a Canadian journalist who now lives in New Hampshire and whose column appears in National Review magazine as well as several U.S. and Canadian newspapers, is facing charges before British Columbia's Human Rights Tribunal.
 
His crime? Spreading "hatred."
 
The evidence? A 5,000-word excerpt of Steyn's book America Alone that was carried as an article, "The Future Belongs to Islam," in October 2006 by the Canadian magazine Maclean's, which is also a defendant. The hearings, which were held June 2-6, amount to a star chamber with the rules of evidence constantly changing according to the whims of the three commissioners. A verdict is expected in September.
 
Steyn and the magazine are also expected to be charged with a hate crime by the national  kangaroo court, the Canadian Human Rights Commission, and another such tribunal in Ontario. Not a single defendant has ever prevailed before the national board in its 31 years of existence. To be accused is to be guilty, Soviet style.
 
The Canadian press has been all over this story, but it has not registered a blip in the United States, except for an AP brief, an article in The Washington Times and on conservative Internet sites and talk radio.
 
A highlighted piece of the case was a comment from an imam, Mullah Krekar, that Steyn drew from an interview in a Norwegian newspaper:
 
"'We're the ones who will change you,' the cleric said. 'Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes. Every Western woman in the EU [European Union] is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries is producing 3.5 children .... Our way of thinking will prove more powerful than yours.'"
 
British Columbia's hate crimes law requires only a "reasonable determination that the excerpt did express hatred and contempt toward Muslims, and likely caused it to spread," according to the National Post.  As evidence, complainants cited postings from two California-based Websites, FreeRepublic and Catholic Answers.
 
The hate crime charges were brought on behalf of a recent law school grad, Khurrum Awan, and the Canadian Islamic Congress's national president, Mohamed Elmasry, and its B.C. director, Naiyer Habib.
 
The three want to force Maclean's to run an identically long piece from their point of view.  That or contribute $10,000 to a race relations foundation, as Awan admitted under cross-examination, according to the Globe and Mail. Later, speaking before the Canadian Arab Federation, Awan threatened to use civil courts to extract "a few million dollars" from any media company that refuses their demands.
 
For the record, Steyn and Maclean's are accused of violating B.C.'s Human Rights Code, whose Section 7(1)( reads: 

"A person must not publish, issue or display ... any statement, publication ... or other notice that is likely to expose a person ... to hatred or contempt."

"There has never been a case in this country that has had such clear, concise evidence, ever," said Faisal Joseph, an attorney bringing the charge before the tribunal.  Joseph noted that the magazine had introduced Steyn's piece this way:

"The Muslim world has youth, numbers and global ambitions. The West is growing old and enfeebled, and more and more lacks the will to rebuff those who would supplant it.  It's the end of the world as we've known it."

Considerable evidence is mounting, particularly in Europe, that this scenario is a common-sense observation. Muslim populations are growing while other religious groups are declining, thus Muslim influence is increasing. Great Britain's Labour government has even gone to the absurd lengths of describing any Muslim-caused domestic terror as "anti-Muslim" activity because the bombings make other Britons less likely to feel good about Muslims. There is open talk of infusing British law with Islamic Shariah law, an accommodation that the Archbishop of Canterbury suggested would be "inevitable" before an outcry forced him to recant.
 
But getting back to Mr. Steyn and Maclean's, they are the poster victims of the trend in Canada to suppress the freedoms of speech and press at the whims of special-interest groups.
 
Most Americans are not only unaware of the Steyn show trial but also the many incidents in which Canadians have been hauled before human rights tribunals and charged with hate crimes for merely expressing traditionalist morality in public.
 
An evangelical pastor, Stephen Boisson, was fined $5,000 by the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal on May 30, 2008, for writing a letter to the editor of a local paper in 2002 critical of homosexual activism in the schools.
 
A Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, newspaper publisher and a private citizen were each fined $4,500 in 2001 for the crime of publishing an ad that listed five Bible verses about homosexuality and had a circle with two stick figures of men holding hands with a line across it.  Three homosexual men had complained that they did not like the ad.
 
The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has for a decade prohibited the broadcast of any material critical of homosexuality. Stations that carry Focus on the Family and other American radio programs have been warned that they could lose their licenses unless  segments dealing with homosexuality are edited out.
 
Many Americans have a warm, fuzzy view of Canada, and have no idea that a totalitarian nation is taking shape, instigated by gay activists and Muslim pressure groups in the name of "tolerance."
 
They do not know because America's mainstream media are refusing to cover it.
 
Perhaps it will take someone like Britney Spears or Lindsay Lohan being charged with a hate crime in Canada to get the media's attention.  But that's unlikely, since celebrities have long understood that the only group that it is still okay to ridicule is Christians, especially Catholics and evangelicals. And that's not news.
 
As for Canadian mullahs attempting to use the law to gag Mr. Steyn and anyone else who gets in their way, well, that's just not news either in the United States.

Robert Knight

 


Comments (Page 4)
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on Jun 18, 2008
It's funny that you live in Canada and haven't heard about all this stuff.

Anyhow the Pastor's name is Stephen Boissoin.

oh and btw a Pastor Green from Sweden also was arrested for preaching on Romans Chapter 1. Did you know that chapter is outlawed in Sweden?

Wonder why?

"did God really say?" said the snake to Eve.



on Jun 18, 2008
The definition of hate speech isn't that hard to define. Any published speech that promotes the (marginalisation/getting rid of) of a part of humanity that is not actively considered criminal


I think hanoi Jane is a jackass and should be euthanized!

Thus I am headed to prison if I lived in Canada. I am so glad I dont live there.

But that is YOUR definition, and not the censors interpretation.
on Jun 18, 2008
While it's clear that English is a second language for Ciko, he did use the word correctly.


I stand corrected LW. I was thinking of something else....obviously.

Where we come from we call it a pulpit.

on Jun 19, 2008
I think hanoi Jane is a jackass and should be euthanized!


Jackass, definitely! A traiterous one at that.

on Jun 19, 2008

double post sorry

on Jun 19, 2008

Cikomyr
it was an example, sorry KFC. But you are the single most anti-homosexuality poster I am aware of on this website.

Your singling her out cause she is a christian and she speaks her mind yet you dont listen to much of the christain people say, which is homosexuality is a sin, like worshipping other gods (which I do!).  You are mongering fear agianst her. Which you say is a bad thing hmmm.

It a good example for how you will marginalize people that dont fallow your agenda! 

 I d rather be able to talk to christians (or others to) and hear em call me sinner then not be able to say anything for fear of making people feel marginalized.... everyone is some how some way... just strap up your boots and make what ya can. 

To Artysim:

American law hasnt had Magna Carta as law since we broke from the english.  Its something that influenced our laws but its something that is taught in a history class.

on Jun 19, 2008
I have far more rights and freedoms than U.S citizens do thanks to your wonderful Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act of 2006. Seeing as your government found a way to succesfully repeal the Magna Carta, you sure should be one to talk!


First, define those freedoms. What freedoms do you have that we do not.

Second, I know Americans are very ego centric when it comes to history (after all I am a product of its education system and am very steeped in it), but I would ask you to google "The American Revolution". It was a minor spat that happened between 1775 and 1783. You will note that it was successful and the result is that America did indeed successfully repeal the magna Carta.

I guess we are the ones to talk - at least we can without fear of jail time.
on Jun 19, 2008
Just like the Ghouls from the Nation of Islam, these men incite hate and deserve what they get. I really don't understand what your trying to defend here KFC.
on Jun 19, 2008

Scotteh
Just like the Ghouls from the Nation of Islam, these men incite hate and deserve what they get. I really don't understand what your trying to defend here KFC.

I defend her right to free speech to defend MY right to free speech!  If she isnt free to speak her mind none of us are. Nor is her speech hate filled anyways... cause it is a hate the sin not the sinners aproach.

I even think Louis Farrakan has every right to call Jews blood suckers.... I  may not like it.... but I ll defend his right to say it none the less too.

on Jun 19, 2008
I defend her right to free speech to defend MY right to free speech! If she isnt free to speak her mind none of us are.


Exactly! Today we have a sense of what is hateful, and all of us here at JU could probably come to some general agreement. But then what happens when the administration changes? Now, instead of banning "Gays (or Muslims, Protestants, Jews, Purples, etc.) are sinning", they decide that if you say "Ugly people are ugly" that is hate speech. WOW! Now we go to jail.

Bridgette Bardot is facing jail time. Did she say "Kill all the Muslims (Jews, Catholic, Puerto Ricoans, etc.)!"? No, she said (to paraphrase) "Muslims are destroying our society". Big deal! That is her opinion in America. It is a hate crime in France. And coming to a Canada near you soon as well.

We must protect the worst of speech to protect our own. Or one day, it will not be us making the rules, but some pencil neck bureaucrat that decides Color blind red haired Geeks must be muzzled because - after all - no one likes them anyway.
on Jun 19, 2008

I even think Louis Farrakan has every right to call Jews blood suckers.... I may not like it.... but I ll defend his right to say it none the less too.

I agree totally.  I think he's a jerk myself but would still defend is right to talk like one.  I know because if he loses his freedom, so do I.  I just pointed him out because he's closely associated with Obama and singing Obama's praises. 

I really don't understand what your trying to defend here KFC.

well it seems pretty obvious.  Freedom of speech. 

I d rather be able to talk to christians (or others to) and hear em call me sinner then not be able to say anything for fear of making people feel marginalized.... everyone is some how some way... just strap up your boots and make what ya can.

I guess we're living in a day when nobody wants to hear anything negative.  They want their ears tickled.  I hate to admit this because it's disturbing to me, but there are even preachers out there who have abandoned the discussion of sin.  They want everyone to "feel good in their sin" and not not realize how much the sin in our lives hurts ourselves and others. 

A good preacher will not sweep sins under the rug but will lovingly (not with hate) help us to acknowledge our faults, deal with them, make some drastic changes if we have to and only then can we really "feel good" about how we treat those around us and live in peace. 

In order to do this our free speech must be maintained.  We must be able from the pulpit call sin for what it is whatever it is.  People are miserable today and it's because they've never really dealt with the guiltload of sin they're carrying around with them.  This only "positive" and "feel good" talk does nothing but give us a false positive.  Before we can feel clean we must clean house from within and sometimes we need to hear the bad stuff to motivate us. 

Bridgette Bardot is facing jail time. Did she say "Kill all the Muslims (Jews, Catholic, Puerto Ricoans, etc.)!"? No, she said (to paraphrase) "Muslims are destroying our society".

well again...people don't want to hear it.  It's not PC.  They don't want the truth.  Truth hurts.  I talked to my new neighbor from England.  He's in his 60's.  He told me that not only is he never going back to his home country because of the over abundance of immigration but even his relatives are saying they are sick of what's going on over there.  In today's paper actually there was some talk about dealing with now what is becoming a problem.  He said one Muslim would get his paperwork done and then open his door to what he would say was his 30 children. 

 

 

 

 

on Jun 19, 2008
well again...people don't want to hear it. It's not PC.


That is the beauty of free speech. You can say whatever you want, but no one has to listen to you. The right of free speech, is not the right to be heard.
on Jun 19, 2008
That is the beauty of free speech. You can say whatever you want, but no one has to listen to you. The right of free speech, is not the right to be heard.


well evidently not in France as you pointed out
on Jun 21, 2008
Larry kuperman posts: #14
It amazes me that anyone can argue for the necessity of protecting hate speech and further, implied in lulapilgram's comment, that hate speech is part of her religous expression.



DrGuy posts: #16
Define Hate speech. Then give examples.


Larry Kuperman posts:
How did you feel when Fundamentalist preacher Jon Hagee referred to your religion as "the Great Whore?"


Quite honestly, this has got to be one of the oldest charges made by anti-Catholic Protestants and therefore I just passed it off as Rev. Hagee being clueless about CC. I didn't know the depth of his animosity towards the Church and Catholicism until he endorsed McCain for President and Catholics objected.

It's only then that his history of lies and slander came out. It wasn't until then I realized he's actually made a living out of demonizing Catholicism especially the Church's relations with the Jews.

Anyway, McCain repudiated his comments and distanced himself from Rev. Hagee.

That was back in April and earlier this month, I've learned that in a spirit of unity Rev. Hagee has written a sincere apology regarding his past statements to Bill Donahue of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.

Rev.Hagee wrote, "In recent decades Catholics and Evangelicals of good will have worked together to defeat the evil of Communism, promote what Pope John Paul II called a "culture of life" that protects every human life from conception to natural death, honors the institution of marriage, and deffends the rights of the poor.

As I wrote in my tribute to Pope Benedict XVI after President Bush welcomed him to the White House, he "spoke for all of us when he said that 'any tendency to treat religion as a private matter must be resisted' and called for Christian participation 'in the exchange of ideas in the public square.'" He ends "it is in this sense of Christian fellowship I hope to reestablish with Catholics with whom I and all Evangelicals must unite to be a voice for life, the family, marriage, and Christian values to our nation and the world."
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