built on solid evidence
Published on April 5, 2007 By KFC Kickin For Christ In History
As a student of the bible, I love to hear about the discoveries that have over the years only given much credence to this book. There have been many stories of brilliant minds that have attempted to disprove the scriptures only to succumb to the realization that the bible is truly a magnificant piece of literature unlike any other.

William Albright, known for his reputation as one of the great archaeologists, said: "There can be no doubt that archaeology has confirmed the substantial historicity of Old Testament tradition."

He also said: "The exessive skepticism shown toward the Bible by important historical schools of the 18th & 19th centuires, certain phases of which still appear periodically, has been progressively discredited. Discovery after discovery has established the accuracy of innumerable details, and has brought increased recognititon to the value of the Bible as a source of history."

Millar Burrows of Yale observes: "Archaeology has in many cases refuted the views of modern critics. it has shown in a number of instances that these views rest on false assumptions and unreal, artifical schemes of historical development."

He also exposes the cause of much unbelief: "The excessive skepticism of many liberal theologians stems not from a careful evaluation of the available data, but from an enormous predisposition against the supernatural."

This is still true today. How many of us are coming to the table with our predisposed beliefs based on what we've just picked up along the way? I hear alot of repititon from those that have no idea where they've heard such and such. It's like gossip. They are picking up and passing on what they have had whispered in their ears. I did this myself for a while until I realized I really had nothing to back myself up on other than what I heard from another.

He adds: "On the whole, archaelogical work has unquestionably strengthened confidence in the reliability of the scriptural record. More than one archaeologist has found his respect for the Bible increased by the experience of excavation in Palestine". :

Sir William Ramsay is regarded as one of the greatest archaeologists ever to have lived. He was a student in the German historical school of the mid 19th century. He believed the Book of Acts was a product of the mid 2nd century AD. He was very convinced of this belief. In his research to make a topographical study of Asia Minor he was compelled to consider the writings of Luke, the physician. As a result he was forced to do a complete reversal of his beliefs due to the overwhelming evidence uncovered in his research. He said this about his change of mind:

"I may fairly claim to have entered on this investigation without prejudice in favor of the conclusion which I shall now seek to justify to the reader. On the contrary, I began with a mind unfavorable to it, for the ingenuity and apparent completness of the Tubingen theory had at one time quite convinced me. it did not then lie in my line of life to investigate the subject minutely; but more recenly I found myself brought into contact with the Book of Acts as an authority for the topgraphy , antiquities and socieity of Asia Minor. It was gradually borne upon me that in various details the narrative showed marvelous truth. In fact, beginning with a fixed idea that the work was essentially a 2nd century composition and never relying on its evidence as trustworthy for first century conditions, I gradually came to find it a useful ally in some obscure and difficult investigations."

Ramsay concluded after 30 years of study that "Luke is a historian of the first rank; not merely are his statements of fact trustworthy......."this author should be placed along with the very greatest of historians." Ramsay also says: "Luke's history is unsurpassed in respect of its trustworthiness."

To even consider this book coming from an all powerful God it MUST meet certain requirements. It has to be transmitted to us accurately from the time it was originally written so we have exactly what God wanted us to have. Next it must be correct when it deal with dates, events and places. A book that has these things mixed up has no right to claim it comes from an infallible God.

If you test the NT documents with the same standard of tests applied to any of the Greek classics, the evidence overwhelmingly favors the NT. If someone states that we have a reliable text of classics, then that same person would be forced to admit that the NT is also just as reliable.

Actually many don't realize that the original NT copies were in better textual shape than the 37 plays of Shakespeare written in the 17th century, after the invention of printing. In every one of his plays there are gaps in the printed text where we have no idea what originally was said. Textual scholars were forced to make good guesses to fill in the blanks. With the abundance of existing manuscripts of the NT we know nothing has been lost through the transmission of the text.

Those who contend that the Bible is unreliable historically are not historians or archeologists. While I can't prove the bible is inspired or written by the very hand of God, (although I believe it to be true,) I do believe the evidence supports the claim the Bible certainly is the very word of God.



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on Nov 20, 2007
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I'd like to invite you to a conversation. But I'll understand if you're afraid.
on Nov 20, 2007
I'd say "bring it on" but really Emp, why would I want to after reading your first few words?

If you're tired of us, as you say, why bother? You've already got your mind made up.

What do I have to gain? Getting ridiculed yet again?





on Nov 20, 2007
What do I have to gain? Getting ridiculed yet again?


Exactly why I stay off of those threads.
on Nov 22, 2007
we know nothing has been lost through the transmission of the text.


translation is a different matter.
on Nov 22, 2007
translation is a different matter.


Yes, and that's why you stick to reputable and widely accepted translations that seek to honor the original Greek and Hebrew.
on Jan 01, 2008
I am not trying to offend you in any way, but you have to admit the following 2 facts:

I believe the bible is based on history, but that doesn't necassarily mean that everything in the bible is true.

History is a very unstable thing, it is the point of view of who ever wrote it down, even then it can drastically change (Columbus for example). You don't hve to go back in time very far to see examples of this, ask people what happened on 9/11, and you will get everything from missle attack, to govt conspericy. It would be interesting to see what the history books say about 9/11, 500 years from now.

You stated that you were unhappy that people contend that the Bible is unreliable historically... (not in those exact wordsm but I think I got your intent).

I believe that all of histry is extremely unreliable, and I mean EXTREMELY!!!!

With out just 'blindly believing'...My question is why would the bible be any different?
on Jan 01, 2008
Yes, and that's why you stick to reputable and widely accepted translations that seek to honor the original Greek and Hebrew.



you still lose stuff in translation.


for instance the Hebrew words used for the Exodus means reed sea. but the Greeks translated it to red sea. now i don't know which is correct. but i think that the Hebrew would be more correct.
on Jan 01, 2008
I believe the bible is based on history, but that doesn't necassarily mean that everything in the bible is true.

History is a very unstable thing, it is the point of view of who ever wrote it down, even then it can drastically change (Columbus for example). You don't hve to go back in time very far to see examples of this, ask people what happened on 9/11, and you will get everything from missle attack, to govt conspericy. It would be interesting to see what the history books say about 9/11, 500 years from now.


Yes, but the bible is more than just history...it's history, poetry, philosophy, prophecy some of it fulfilled, some yet to be.

What you said is true about asking people about history and getting diff viewpoints. Yes, but the bible is not like that. What you have is a compilation of 66 books written by about 40 authors that are in complete agreement even tho these individual books span a period of 1500 years in three diff continents. That's amazing. The only way this can be is it's not like any other book. It has a supernatural component to it. As a Christian who has studied this book for many years I have to believe it's written by God himself using these men as human instuments much like we use a pen as an instrument to write down our own thoughts.

You stated that you were unhappy that people contend that the Bible is unreliable historically... (not in those exact wordsm but I think I got your intent).

I believe that all of histry is extremely unreliable, and I mean EXTREMELY!!!!


Again, the bible has NOT been proven unreliable in any area of science, history, archeology etc. Until it has I have to believe it's divine in nature. While I can't prove EVERY nuance in scripture is reliable or true...what I can say is that person, place or event mentioned in scripture that can be verified has been proven to be true. Let me ask you this....have you ever taken the time to read this book? The whole thing?

With out just 'blindly believing'...My question is why would the bible be any different?


I don't believe in blind faith. I don't believe we are called to believe in blind faith. God says many times in scripture to "test" the spirits or to "discern" what we are reading or hearing or to be "wise" as serpents. Read about Gideon who "tested" God with his fleece and know that God wants us to "test" him and prove that he is who he says he is as written down in scripture. I have yet to find anything untrue about him doing these things. In fact, God has more than "proven" himself to me.

If you haven't found these things out yourself (and it sounds like you haven't) I'd like to challange you to give it one year. Take this new year...give it to God of the bible and prayfully read this book. What's one year out of a lifetime? It could be a life changing event that may change your life for all eternity.




on Jan 01, 2008
for instance the Hebrew words used for the Exodus means reed sea. but the Greeks translated it to red sea. now i don't know which is correct. but i think that the Hebrew would be more correct.


What exactly are you referring to? Exodus is the title of the Book "Exodus" and means "departure" I don't think "Exodus" is used in scripture otherwise.

The English title comes from the title in the Septuagint. The Exodus (way out) is the principal theme of the book.

As far as reed sea and red sea is concerned (I'd have to check)......are the reeds red in color? It sounds vaguly like something I've heard before. If so, I think that could be the reason for the names and therefore are one in the same.

on Jan 01, 2008
If so, I think that could be the reason for the names and therefore are one in the same.


there used to be in egypt a sea of reeds. the greeks supposedly miss translated the hebrew word for reed to red. or maybe it was a miss spell.


but as i have stated to gid before translate the word you into spanish.
on Jan 01, 2008
there used to be in egypt a sea of reeds. the greeks supposedly miss translated the hebrew word for reed to red. or maybe it was a miss spell


Here's what I found just doing a quick search on Wiki:

Red Sea is a direct translation of the Greek Erythra Thalassa (Ερυθρά Θάλασσα), Latin Mare Rubrum, Arabic Al-Baḥr Al-Aḥmar (البحر الأحمر), and Tigrinya Qeyḥ bāḥrī (ቀይሕ ባሕሪ).

The name of the sea may signify the seasonal blooms of the red-coloured cyanobacteria Trichodesmium erythraeum near the water's surface. Some suggest that it refers to the mineral-rich red mountains nearby which are called Harei Edom (הרי אדום). Edom, meaning "ruddy complexion", is also an alternative Hebrew name for the red-faced biblical character Esau (brother of Jacob), and the nation descended from him, the Edomites, which in turn provides yet another possible origin for Red Sea.[citation needed]


As I said, I remember something about the reeds being red and quite possibly that's the reason for Reed Sea vs Red Sea.

Regardless, I don't get your point about how this really messes us up with translation problems. The sea being called the Red or Reed Sea does not make a difference either way.

on Jan 01, 2008
The sea being called the Red or Reed Sea does not make a difference either way.


except in this case they are two different bodies of water. or i should say were two different bodies of water. basically a lake with reeds in it.

i am getting this off of the history channel so i don't know if it is or isn't.

personnally i think it was the red sea.



the red sea as you describe and
but as i have stated to gid before translate the word you into spanish.



on Jan 01, 2008
the red sea as you describe and
but as i have stated to gid before translate the word you into spanish.


ya....and.....?

I'm totally not getting your point here. I don't know Spanish so I looked it up and this is what I found.

The fact that Spanish has two sets of pronouns that mean "you" — the familiar informal "you," which is tú in the singular and vosotros in the plural, and the formal "you," which is usted in the singular and ustedes in the plural — is often a source of confusion for Spanish students. While there aren't any rules that are always valid for determining which one to use, this guide will steer you in the right direction most of the time.

So what? What does this have to do with the subject at hand?
on Jan 01, 2008
there are three words for you in spanish. depending on how well you know someone tells you which word to use.


but when you translate that to english it doesn't matter how well you know someone.


in other words you lose something in translation. even tho the translation is correct.
on Jan 01, 2008
the bible has NOT been proven unreliable in any area of science, history, archeology etc.


nor has it been proven reliable in many areas of science, history, archeology, etc.

what proof is available--factual proof supported by physical evidence--of the exodus? of noah's flood? of the simultaneous creation of all animal life?

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