Who Wants to Know?
Published on February 14, 2007 By KFC Kickin For Christ In Politics
Another piece of disturbing news.

I was at work yesterday when my boss, who is also my politcal advisor since he knows so much about it and keeps me informed on the latest, told me something that really bugged me.

He and his wife took their 13 year old daughter to the doctor's for a regular checkup for sports. The doctor asked them to leave the room. They said they would prefer not to but the doctor insisted. So they did. They trust this doctor completely and left the room. While gone, the doctor had a list of questions evidently she was obligated to ask this young girl without her parents being there.

While the parents didn't quiz their daughter about the questions, it did come up that one of the questions asked was... is there any guns in their house? My boss is a hunter. So too is another one of the guys in my office. They both have guns. The other guy was incensed his friend's daughter was asked this. He said..."I don't like this. Are they now using doctor's for info?" He was visibly upset about this. Aren't guns registered? Is this just a way to find out who has unregistered guns by having their kids tell on their parents?

So the question I asked was why is it a doctor's business to ask this? What does this have to do with having a physical? Is this a new thing now? I'm guessing somehow this is getting reported. But to whom?

My boss seemed to think it had to do with health and welfare of the child. I think it goes much deeper.

There are many that are just waiting for all the guns to be taken away from the common joe. I know there are some now that are stocking the guns and ammo thinking when Hillary gets in it's going to be much harder to get their hands on this.

I know one thing, I would have walked out of that doctor's office with my daughter in hand and would have found another way for her to have a simple sports physical than having to give up personal info that doesn't even belong in this setting.

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on Feb 14, 2007
No, I dont have a gun, or a lion. But as the first is a right, I dont care. The second is not, so I have to ask them why?

In either case, it is THEIR choice. That is why we are not Venezuela.
on Feb 14, 2007
Firearm Injury Prevention Counseling at the Journal of Pediatrics.

Also... A bill to stop physicians from asking.

"The national pediatric group puts out a guide on safety counseling for pediatricians under its injury prevention program.

The state-endorsed guidelines are used by not just doctors and nurses but by others whose jobs involve children.

Medical professionals are encouraged to use the routine safety survey to counsel parents about everything from car safety seats and child-proofing a house and backyard pool to bicycle helmets and fire safety once the child reaches the appropriate age.

Pediatricians use the checklist to curtail preventable injuries, such as poisoning by household cleaning products, not to be intrusive, say Virginia physicians.

"The bill hits at the heart and core of prevention and protecting our children," said Dr. Nancy Welch, Chesapeake Health Department director. "I am just amazed that it has gone this far and seems to be flying under the radar."


Might as well add lions to the list, wouldn't take another 10 seconds. Maybe large predatory birds, too.

on Feb 15, 2007
! I can't imagine why Reagan would respect him so much after the Korean debacle. Geez.


That was Truman's debacle.
on Feb 15, 2007
That was Truman's debacle.


Truman may have got us in, But MacArthur frakked it up. He just wanted the huge, glorious Normandy-style battle under his belt, without realizing that World War II is the aberration in American military involvement - we hadn't fought a war anything like that before, and haven't had one since. There's a reason that Ike sacked him the second he was in office.
on Feb 15, 2007
One of the reasons it doesn't freak me out is because I am not sure what an "illegal" gun is...do you mean an unregistered firearm?

That would be dumb for Drs to ask if its legal (registered) because registration is not required in every state. (Mississippi for one...WWW Link)

I've never felt offended at the question. They always ask if we have dogs too. Forgot that one. Are they up to date on shots...stuff like that.

Maybe they have to cover it for insurance purposes? I dunno. Maybe it doesn't offend me because I answer the "right" way.
on Feb 15, 2007
'Register your guns and you won't have to worry about it. Oh wait, you're talking about a 'friend.' Or a 'friend's sister.' Anyone but yourself, right KFC? You'd never own an illegal gun, right?"


Depends on where you live. Guns don't have to be registered in most places. If you move to a new area and go to the police department and tell them you want to register the ownership of your guns they'll look at you like you're a nut. You mostly see that in crime-ridden urban cesspools where it doesn't help anyway.

In fact, it makes it worse. Such places draw illegal gun dealers, much in the same way that bootlegging and drug crime always seem to be worse in "dry" areas. If you have a legal gun store with fewer hitches for purchase, it's actually HARDER to get a weapon to use for crime.

Why? Because in places where it is almost impossible to get a legal weapon, illegal ones are a hot commodity, and people sell them on street corners. Dealers in illegal weapons have a hard time making a living in areas where it isn't so hard to buy guns legally.

Forcing people to jump through hoops to buy guns, and making it inconvenient to own them just makes the dealers who don't do those things popular. Then you have a community full of "cold", cheap weapons.
on Feb 15, 2007
It's been my observation that only the criminals have unregistered firearms or prohibited weapons (i.e. a shotgun with a barrel length under 18 inches) so for honest folk it's a non-issue. So relax everybody!
on Feb 15, 2007
I actually know of MANY law abiding citizens who don't register their firearms, Shovel. They try to live in areas where registraation is not required.

I don't think that asking a child if there are guns in the home should be the responsibility of medical care professionals, and here's why: Because people NEED medical care. I know for a fact that fear of the kinds of intrusions that doctors make into their personal lives has kept many parents from seeking adequate medical care. Because a doctor who disapproves of your lifestyle can very quickly find a way to hurt you and your family.

Doctors are NOT trained law enforcement officials, and should NOT be required to act as such.
on Feb 15, 2007
I actually have no guns at my house...my mom doesn't like them, so no guns. I do have a katana, though...and when the zombies come it's probably sharp enough to split their skulls...so I think I'm good to go.

I had a physical a few years back...no questions about guns or anything...just general health questions.

~Zoo
on Feb 15, 2007
I had a physical a few years back...no questions about guns or anything...just general health questions.


My Doc never wants to talk about guns either. And I hate it when he slips and snaps one of those latex gloves on and tells me to roll over. Heh, I'd whole lot rather discuss my .380 ya know?   
on Feb 15, 2007
I actually know of MANY law abiding citizens who don't register their firearms, Shovel. They try to live in areas where registraation is not required.


Just a point of clarification--if they are not registering their fireamrm when they are living in an area that requires it, then they are NOT law abiding citizens.
on Feb 15, 2007
Just a point of clarification--if they are not registering their fireamrm when they are living in an area that requires it, then they are NOT law abiding citizens.


That's exactly what I meant. Where I live firearms do not happen to have this requirment although it is a felony to possess a prohibited weapon which is a horse of a different color entirely -and that can be a weapon that's not even a gun like brass knuckles and the like. But the jest of what I was trying to say is that the criminal ignores the law and carries/possess same anyway. It's like the lock on your front door -in reality it only keeps the honest people out.
on Feb 15, 2007
Just a point of clarification--if they are not registering their fireamrm when they are living in an area that requires it, then they are NOT law abiding citizens.


Technically, of course, you are 100% correct here, shades, but I would like to point out that liberals do not have a monopoly on the idea of civil disobedience. If a gay couple is living as married in the state of Texas, they're not law abiding citizens either, but it'd be pretty silly to do anything about it.
on Feb 15, 2007
Caracarn: Blades don't need reloading.


I got some swords too

My question to the doc would be "how about if I have a loaded one on me right now?" Proud owner of a concealed carry permit.


Here Here, I just got my permit to carry last year. I am totally bringing it to the dr next time I go now lol.

And I hate it when he slips and snaps one of those latex gloves on and tells me to roll over. Heh, I'd whole lot rather discuss my .380 ya know?


Haha, if this happens to me.......he won't be needing to ask if I have one anyway.

on Feb 15, 2007
Of course, she isn't talking about HER household here. Of course not! Just some friend of a friend she's concerned about.


I just wonder why you even bother to come around here LW. It's a mystery to me. Obviously I rub you the wrong way. You should just ignore me. I wish you would.

Here you have no idea what you're talking about...yet again.

I am NOT talking about my household because we DO NOT have guns. It doesn't apply. We have NEVER had a gun in our household. NEVER. So YES, I'm talking about my friend who just happens to be my boss. Give it a break LW.

I don't think that asking a child if there are guns in the home should be the responsibility of medical care professionals, and here's why: Because people NEED medical care. I know for a fact that fear of the kinds of intrusions that doctors make into their personal lives has kept many parents from seeking adequate medical care


I agree with this. If they want to know, why don't they ask the parents? Why are they asking the kids in private? Why not ask the parents and then maybe give out gun safety brochures if they are so worried.
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